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Sistema de Casta Hindu Caste que foi criado originalmente para o crescimento sistêmico espiritual e social das pessoas tornou-se uma maldição para a sociedade hindu por causa de sua má interpretação, ignorância e desvantagens tomadas por algumas seções da sociedade. Algumas pessoas culpam a forma atual do sistema de castas para o hinduísmo, o que é absolutamente errado. Evangelistas provocam algumas pessoas chamadas de castas baixas para aceitar sua religião usando o sistema de castas como uma arma contra o hinduísmo. Este artigo não está escrito para suportar qualquer forma de sistema de castas, mas para apresentar a verdade por trás da frente das pessoas. Após a conclusão da leitura deste artigo, asseguro-lhe que você terá um conhecimento aprofundado do sistema de castas e você saberá que estes não são os hindus que são responsáveis ​​pela forma atual do sistema de castas, mas é o Falta desse conhecimento científico que levou a esse estágio. Introdução ao sistema de castas: o sistema de casta é um sistema, que decide o status social de pessoas e o comércio por seu nascimento. O sistema moderno de castas é uma forma mal interpretada de Varnashrama, também chamada de sistema Chaturvarnya, ou seja, quatro sistemas Varna. É importante notar que o hinduísmo defende Varnashrama e não o sistema moderno de castas, que se baseia na casta da família em que nasce uma pessoa em particular. O sistema de castas é amplamente dividido em quatro categorias: 1. Brahmin Brahmin é a sociedade mais reverenciada do hinduísmo, que por direitos de nascimento pode realizar todos os rituais e tornar-se sacerdote de um templo ou fazer trabalhos docentes ou acadêmicos. 2. Kshatriya O principal trabalho de Kshatriaya é proteger a sociedade de agressões externas e manter a lei e a ordem. Kshatriya é a segunda comunidade mais reverenciada, mas seu status é o de abaixo de Brhamins. 3. Vaishya Vaishya é a comunidade comercial. Seu trabalho é negociar. O seu status é o de abaixo de Kshatriya. 4. Shudra Shudras é considerada como tendo o menor status na hierarquia de castas. O seu trabalho principal envolve trabalho físico, como limpeza, cerâmica, carpintaria, etc. Sistema antigo de castas, ou seja, Varnashrama ou Chaturvarnya: Cada ser humano nasce com certas características e com alguma inclinação natural para uma determinada ocupação, e. Algumas pessoas são homens de negócios naturais. Eles não querem trabalhar para os outros a qualquer custo, mesmo que sejam altamente pagos. Pelo contrário, algumas pessoas querem servir e não querem fazer negócios. Algumas pessoas querem se juntar apenas às forças armadas e lutar pela causa do país. Alguns anos atrás cientistas britânicos descobriram que por ser um empresário de sucesso, a pessoa precisa nascer com certos conjuntos de genes. Existe um boato de que até algumas empresas estão planejando verificar o mapa genético de uma pessoa que solicitou uma determinada postagem para ver se elas se encaixam para esse trabalho específico ou não. Varnashrama era o sistema que costumava reconhecer a inclinação certa de uma pessoa em direção a uma determinada ocupação e ajudá-lo a fazer o trabalho para o qual ele seria mais adequado. Não era significativo em que família ele nascesse. Não houve restrições ao casamento entre as pessoas de duas castas diferentes. Agora, a questão se coloca é que os hindus antigos têm conhecimento sobre os genes. Em caso afirmativo, em que medida, porque os laboratórios que temos agora não estavam disponíveis naquele momento, então como o sistema Cast durante o período medieval: o período medieval foi o pior período Para o hinduísmo. Foi esse período apenas quando as castas foram divididas em vários sub-editores. Além disso, o regionalismo acrescentou novos aspectos às castas. As quatro categorias acima mencionadas são ainda divididas em subcategorias. Por exemplo, Em Brahmins, existem subdivididos como Brahmins Chitpavana, Deshastha Brahmin, Kayastha Brahmin, Brahmins Vaishnava, Brahmins Kokanastha e muito. Quando um bebê nasce em uma família hindu, heshe não é apenas um hindu, mas também está ligado a uma casta e subcaste em particular, da qual é sua família. Por exemplo, se um bebê nascer em uma família de Deshastha Brahmin, ele será um hindu bem como um brâmane, mas um Bravo Deshastha. A ocupação de uma pessoa foi decidida apenas por sua casta. Isso significa que um filho de carpinteiros só terá que fazer carpintaria e não outros trabalhos como cerâmica ou não pode ser soldado, enquanto um soldado terá que ser soldado e ele não estará fazendo outros trabalhos. No momento, na Índia, existem mais de 2800 castas e subcastas. Nos tempos védicos, havia apenas quatro castas. Assim, entre o período de cerca de 3500 anos, os hindus jogaram o sistema de castas original e evoluíram agora para uma nova forma de sistema de castas. Na Índia moderna, as pessoas não são muito incomodadas com a castanha, a menos que chegue às eleições e ao casamento. As pessoas estão jogando fora os antigos pensamentos do sistema de castas. A sociedade indiana moderna está inclinada para uma sociedade centrada no dinheiro em vez de uma sociedade centrada em casta. Mas, infelizmente, o sistema de castas não é totalmente erradicado, especialmente nas áreas rurais onde as pessoas ainda consideram a casta de uma pessoa como um fator primário. As condições estão mudando rapidamente. Com os esforços do governo indiano e das organizações sociais, a Índia rural também está mudando. Embora as incidências esporádicas ainda estejam lá, o futuro é muito otimista. As pessoas de castas inferiores receberam reservas, para que possam ocupar cargos de autoridade superior em instituições governamentais. Eles receberam reservas nos serviços governamentais também para que possam progredir mais rápido. Ciência por trás do antigo sistema de castas: o seguinte parágrafo é apenas uma hipótese, pois é muito difícil provar o que aconteceu há milhares de anos e como as coisas se desenvolveram. Daremos algumas evidências teóricas para provar a ciência no antigo sistema de castas. Não afirmo que seja 100 verdade. O que eu acho que os hindus antigos foram avançados em ciência e tecnologia que incluem a genética. Eles sabiam que estes são os genes (não exatamente, mas algo assim) que controla as propriedades de um ser humano como a pele, a cor, o cabelo, a inclinação para o trabalho (seja lutador ou trabalhista, etc.), natureza, doenças, Etc. Naquela época, não havia laboratórios para fazer uma amostra de sangue e identificar os genes, mas eles desenvolveram outra maneira de descobrir isso e Janma Kundali ou Janma Patrika. Janma Patrika é esboçada com base nas posições de estrelas, planetas e nakshatras no momento do nascimento de uma pessoa. Se você já viu um Janma Patrika ou se você já mostrou isso a um padre que tem um profundo conhecimento sobre isso, ele fará facilmente as características de uma pessoa como a cor da pele, a natureza, o prospecto do trabalho e muitas outras coisas sem Vendo essa pessoa. Eu pessoalmente experimentei isso muitas vezes. Estou dando alguns exemplos aqui do que experimentei: 1. Desde a minha infância, queria unir forças armadas ou policiais, não sabia por quê. A menos que e até alguns anos atrás, eu nem sequer considerava nenhuma outra carreira. Eu tentei o meu melhor para me juntar a forças armadas, mas infelizmente não consegui. (O meu Varna é Kshatriay de acordo com meu Janma Patrika que significa guerreiro). 2. Meu irmão sempre quis ser um empresário. Embora ele não pudesse, ele ainda está tentando se tornar um. Na verdade, ele gosta de negócios do coração (Sua varna é Vaishya de acordo com sua Janma Patrika). 3. Um dos meus amigos quer fazer negócios a qualquer custo. Agora, ele está trabalhando e fazendo uma pequena empresa também para o qual ele tem que trabalhar cerca de 16-18 horas por dia. Ele pensa em tudo e em termos de negócios (Ele também é um Vaishya de acordo com sua Janma Patrika). Estes são poucos exemplos. Eu vi o Janma Patrika até 90 precisos em alguns casos, mas não tenho certeza de como se pode dizer o futuro de uma pessoa de Janma Kundali. Em conclusão, o que eu quero dizer é que é bem possível que a ocupação de uma pessoa tenha sido decidida na Índia antiga com base em Janma Kundali, pois Janma Kundali foi considerado como seu mapa de genes (se você pensa em termos modernos). Apenas a técnica para encontrar características de uma pessoa era diferente. Mas no fluxo do tempo, as pessoas podem ter começado a usá-lo, pois é muito difícil saber quem nasceu a que horas e Janma Kundali pode ser facilmente manipulada por uma pessoa que tem conhecimento sobre isso. Então, as pessoas naquela época devem ter decidido atribuir um emprego a uma pessoa com base em qual família ele nasceu em vez de sua Janma Patrika, pois a próxima geração carrega genes dos antepassados. Por exemplo, se uma pessoa nasceu em uma família Shudra, ele teve que fazer trabalho trabalhista e, se uma pessoa nasceu em uma família brahmana, ele teve que fazer obras sacerdotais. Assim, o sistema de castas que vemos agora deve ter aumentado. Agora, a questão mais básica é que os hindus antigos têm conhecimento de genes. Minha resposta é sim. Se você tem algum conhecimento sobre uma família Hindu típica, cada família tem Gotra. Gotra é a linhagem ou clã associada a uma família hindu. Cada família conseguiu. Algumas famílias têm diferentes gotra e algumas famílias têm o mesmo. Na preparação de um casamento hindu antes de tomar qualquer decisão, verificou-se que as duas famílias são obtidas. Um casamento entre os mesmos gotra não é permitido, pois eles são considerados como sendo da mesma origem e, geneticamente, a futura noiva e noivo seria irmão e irmã. O casamento entre os mesmos conseguiu efeitos adversos para a próxima geração. Parece estranho, mas é verdade. Eu acho que isso prova meu ponto. O aumento da intocabilidade: leia os parágrafos acima também se você quiser saber como a intocabilidade pode ter sido levantada. Devo mencionar primeiro que, em qualquer escritura hindu como Vedas ou Bhagvad Gita, não existe esse conceito. Esta coisa desumana foi posta em prática por algumas pessoas equivocadas e o hinduísmo não suporta intocabilidade em qualquer forma. Na Índia medieval, pessoas de casta superior e casta ainda menor costumavam observar a prática de não tocar pessoas de alguns dos subdivididos de Shudras como varredor, limpadores de toalete, sapateiro, etc. Essas pessoas foram forçadas a viver fora da aldeia, não eram Permissão para compartilhar os recursos hídricos que as pessoas de castas superiores usavam, não podiam entrar em templos, não podiam participar da cerimônia de casamento de uma pessoa de castas superiores, não podiam fazer trabalhos intelectuais, etc. Devido ao sistema de castas, alguns dos As pessoas de castas mais baixas foram forçadas a fazer empregos como limpeza de toalete, varredura e outros trabalhos que são considerados sujos e inúteis pela sociedade. As pessoas que fazem esses trabalhos podem não ter mantido a limpeza devido à escassez de água ou por outros motivos. Como a maioria dos hindus são adoradores de ídolos, as pessoas que fazem esses trabalhos poderiam ter sido consideradas sujas pelas pessoas que fazem outras ocupações e, portanto, acho que esse conceito de intocabilidade poderia ter sido levantado. A intocabilidade é ilegal agora de acordo com a constituição e a lei indianas e ninguém na Índia observa isso, mas alguns conflitos ainda acontecem em alguma parte da Índia rural sobre questões de entrar no templo e compartilhar os mesmos recursos hídricos. Sistema de casta em outras religiões na Índia: não é divertido saber que mesmo pessoas de outras religiões, como o Cristianismo e o Islã, observam o sistema de castas e têm grupos que se parecem com castas e submissos em sua religião também. Infelizmente, é verdade. O Islam tem cerca de 80 grupos diferentes, mesmo que castas e subcastas na Índia. Pessoas de grupos diferentes não se casam. Por exemplo, os muçulmanos Konkani pensam que são diferentes e não estabelecem relações conjugais com outros facilmente. As diferenças entre sunitas e shiya são prevalentes. Os cristãos na Índia se dividiram em regiões. Existem grupos como Goan Christian, UP Christian, Católicos, Cristãos Marathi, Cristãos Keralite e muito. As pessoas desses grupos se consideram superiores entre si, o que é totalmente contra sua religião. Claramente, isso não tem nada a ver com o Islã ou o Cristianismo. É o efeito colateral do sistema de castas hindu, que também atravessou outras religiões. Como erradicar o sistema de castas: sem dúvida, seja qual for o motivo, observar o sistema de castas de qualquer forma, que pode ser antigo, moderno ou medieval, não é bom para a humanidade. Não devemos, a qualquer custo, dividir a humanidade em termos de religião, casta ou até mesmo ser genes. Todo ser humano tem direitos para escolher sua própria forma de emprego, não importa o que seus genes digam. Portanto, é dever de todos os hindus e pessoas de outras religiões também erradicar o sistema de castas. É realmente possível e viável. Se pudermos erradicar a escravidão, então por que não podemos erradicar o sistema de castas. Isso levará algum tempo até algumas centenas de anos, mas será erradicado. Sugiro algumas coisas simples para acelerar esse processo. 1. Conheça todas as pessoas como um ser humano e não como se alguém representasse suas castas, religiões, raças, etc. Nunca pergunte a ninguém o que é a sua casta. 2. Nunca procure uma casta de pessoas no momento do casamento. 3. Os políticos estão fazendo uso de casta para seus bancos de voto e fazendo uso da reserva apenas para ganhar mais votos. É dever daqueles que recebem reserva para negar isso. Levante-se sozinho. Você é a maior criação do Deus. Você não precisa de muletas de reserva para ficar de pé, jogue-a. 4. Ensine seus filhos sobre a igualdade e não sobre o sistema de castas. 5. Evite comentários relacionados com casta, nem mesmo por diversão que realmente dói à pessoa. Os nossos comentários são valiosos para nós. Use nossa seção de comentários para deixar sua opinião. DISCURSO PREPARADO PELA Dra. BR Ambedkar A Conferência Anual de 1936 do Jat-Pat-Todak Mandal de Lahore, MAS NÃO ENTREGIDA Devido ao cancelamento da Conferência pelo Comitê de Recepção, com o argumento de que as opiniões expressadas no Discurso seriam insuportáveis ​​para a Conferência Eu realmente sinto muito pelos membros do Jat-Pat-Todak Mandal que me convidaram tão bem para presidir esta Conferência. Estou certo de que serão feitas muitas perguntas por me terem escolhido como Presidente. O Mandal será solicitado a explicar por que importou um homem de Bombaim para presidir uma função que é realizada em Lahore. Eu acredito que o Mandal poderia facilmente encontrar alguém melhor qualificado do que eu para presidir a ocasião. Eu critiquei os hindus. Perguntei a autoridade do Mahatma a quem eles reverenciaram. Eles me odeiam. Para eles, sou uma cobra em seu jardim. O Mandal, sem dúvida, será solicitado pelos hindus de mentalidade política para explicar por que me chamou para preencher este lugar de honra. É um ato de grande ousadia. Não me surpreenderia se alguns hindus políticos considerassem isso como um insulto. Esta seleção minha não pode certamente agradar os hindus religiosos comuns. O Mandal pode ser solicitado a explicar por que desobedeceu a injunção Shastric ao selecionar o Presidente. Accente aos Shastras, o Brahmin é nomeado para ser o Guru para os três Varnas, varnanam bramhano garu, é uma direção dos Shastras. O Mandal, portanto, sabe de quem um hindu deve levar suas lições e de quem ele não deveria. Os Shastras não permitem que um hindu aceite qualquer um como seu Guru apenas porque ele é bem versado. Isso é muito claro por Ramdas, um santo brâmane de Maharashtra, que alegadamente inspirou Shivaji a estabelecer um Raj hindu. Em seu Dasbodh, um tratado sócio-político-religioso no verso de Marathi Ramdas pergunta, abordando os hindus, podemos aceitar um Antyaja para ser nosso Guru porque ele é um Pandit (ou seja, aprendido) e dá uma resposta negativa. O que as respostas a estas questões é uma questão que devo deixar para o Mandal. O Mandal conhece melhor os motivos que o levaram a viajar a Bombaim para selecionar um presidente, reparar em um homem tão repugnante para os hindus e descer tão baixo na escala quanto a selecionar um Antyaja e um intocável para dirigir-se a uma audiência dos Savarnas. Quanto a mim, você me permitirá dizer que aceitei o convite muito contra a minha vontade e também contra a vontade de muitos dos meus amigos intocáveis. Eu sei que os hindus estão cansados ​​de mim. Eu sei que não sou um persona grata com eles. Sabendo tudo isso, eu deliberadamente me mantive longe. Não tenho vontade de me infligir sobre eles. Eu tenho expressado meus pontos de vista da minha própria plataforma. Isso já causou uma grande quantidade de queimaduras e irritação. Não tenho vontade de ascender a plataforma dos hindus para fazer a sua vista o que eu tenho feito dentro da audiência. Se eu estiver aqui é por sua escolha e não por meu desejo. O seu é uma causa da reforma social. Essa causa sempre fez um apelo para mim e é por isso que senti que não devia recusar uma oportunidade de ajudar a causa especialmente quando você acha que posso ajudá-la. Se o que eu vou dizer hoje irá ajudá-lo de qualquer maneira a resolver o problema que você está enfrentando é para você julgar. Tudo o que espero fazer é colocar diante de você minhas opiniões sobre o problema. O caminho da reforma social, como o caminho para o céu, na Índia, está espalhado por muitas dificuldades. A reforma social na Índia tem poucos amigos e muitos críticos. Os críticos dividem-se em duas classes distintas. Uma classe consiste em reformadores políticos e o outro dos socialistas. Reconheceu-se que, sem a eficiência social, nenhum progresso permanente nos outros campos de atividade era possível, que, devido a prejuízos causados ​​pelos costumes malignos, a Sociedade Hindu não estava em um estado de eficiência e que os esforços incessantes devem ser feitos para erradicar Esses males. Foi devido ao reconhecimento deste fato que o nascimento do Congresso Nacional foi acompanhado pela fundação da Conferência Social. Enquanto o Congresso estava preocupado com a definição dos pontos fracos na organização política do país, a Conferência Social empenhou-se em remover os pontos fracos da organização social da Sociedade Hindu. Durante algum tempo, o Congresso e a Conferência trabalharam como duas alas de uma atividade comum e realizaram suas sessões anuais no mesmo pandal. Mas logo as duas alas se desenvolveram em duas partes, um Partido da Reforma Política e um Partido da Reforma Social, entre os quais houve uma forte controvérsia. O Partido da Reforma Política apoiou o Congresso Nacional e o Partido da Reforma Social apoiou a Conferência Social. Os dois corpos tornaram-se então dois campos hostis. O ponto em questão era se a reforma social deveria preceder a reforma política. Durante uma década, as forças foram uniformemente equilibradas e a batalha foi travada sem vitória de ambos os lados. No entanto, era evidente que as fortunas da Conferência Social estavam a diminuir rapidamente. Os senhores que presidiram as sessões da Conferência Social lamentaram que a maioria dos hindus educados fosse para o avanço político e indiferente à reforma social e que, embora o número de pessoas que participaram do Congresso fosse muito grande e o número que não compareceu, mas Que simpatizou com ele ainda maior, o número de pessoas que participaram da conferência social foi muito menor. Esta indiferença, este desbaste de suas fileiras foi logo seguido por hostilidade ativa dos políticos. Sob a liderança do falecido Sr. Tilak, a cortesia com que o Congresso permitiu a Conferência Social o uso de seu pandal foi retirado e o espírito de inimizade foi a tal ponto que, quando a Conferência Social desejava erigir seu próprio pandal, uma ameaça Para queimar o pandal foi defendido por seus oponentes. Assim, no decorrer do tempo, o partido em favor da reforma política ganhou e a Conferência Social desapareceu e foi esquecida. O discurso, entregue pelo Sr. WC Bonnerji em 1892 em Allahabad como presidente da oitava sessão do Congresso, soa como uma oração funeral à morte da Conferência Social e é tão típico da atitude do Congresso que me arrisco a citar isso O seguinte extracto. O Sr. Bonnerji disse: 8221 Eu, por um lado, não tenho paciência com aqueles que viram que não devemos ser aptos para a reforma política até reformarmos o nosso sistema social. Eu não consigo ver nenhuma conexão entre os dois. Não estamos preparados (para a reforma política) porque nossas viúvas permanecem solteiras e nossas meninas são casadas antes do que em outros países. Porque nossas esposas e filhas não dirigem conosco visitando nossos amigos porque não enviamos nossas filhas para Oxford e Cambridge. 8221 (Cheers) 8217 Afirmei o caso da reforma política, como colocada pelo Sr. Bonnerji. Havia muitos que estão felizes que a vitória foi para o Congresso. Mas aqueles que acreditam na importância da reforma social podem perguntar, é o argumento como o do Sr. Bonnerji final. Isso prova que a vitória foi para aqueles que estavam na direita. É conclusivo que a reforma social não tem influência na reforma política. Isso nos ajudará a entender o assunto se eu indicar o outro lado do caso. Vou recorrer ao tratamento dos intocáveis ​​para os meus fatos. Sob a regra dos Peshwas no país de Maratha, o intocável não podia usar as ruas públicas se um hindu chegasse para não poluir o hindu por sua sombra. O intocável era obrigado a ter um fio preto no pulso ou no pescoço como um sinal ou uma marca para evitar que os hindus se contaminassem por seu toque através de um erro. Em Poona, a capital do Peshwa, o intocável era obrigado a carregar, amarrado de sua cintura, uma vassoura para varrer de trás do pó que ele pisava, para que um hindu caminhando no mesmo deveria ser poluído. Em Poona, o intocável era obrigado a carregar um pote de barro, pendurado em seu pescoço onde quer que ele fosse, por segurar sua cuspir para que seu cuspe caindo sobre a terra devesse poluir um hindu que, sem saber, passasse a pisar nele. Deixe-me levar fatos mais recentes. A tirania praticada pelos hindus sobre os Balais, uma comunidade intocável no centro da Índia, servirá para o meu propósito. Você encontrará um relatório sobre isso no Times of India de 4 de janeiro de 1928. 8220 O correspondente do Times of India relatou que os hindus de castas altas, viz. Kalotas, Rajputs e Brahmins, incluindo os Patels e Patwaris de aldeias de Kanaria, Bicholi-Hafsi, Bicholi-Mardana e de cerca de 15 outras aldeias no djistrict de Indore (do Estado de Indore) informaram os Balais de suas respectivas aldeias que, se desejassem Viva entre eles, eles devem obedecer às seguintes regras: (1) Balais não deve usar begigas com borda de renda de ouro. (2) Não devem usar dhotis com bordas coloridas ou extravagantes. (3) Eles devem transmitir a indicação da morte de qualquer hindu para parentes do falecido, não importa o quão longe esses parentes podem estar vivendo. (4) Em todos os casamentos hindus, Balais deve tocar música antes das procissões e durante o casamento. (5) As mulheres balai não devem usar ornamentos de ouro ou prata, eles não devem usar vestidos extravagantes ou casacos. (6) As mulheres balai devem comparecer a todos os casos de confinamento de mulheres hindus. (7) A Balais deve prestar serviços sem exigir remuneração e deve aceitar o que um hindu tem prazer em dar. (8) Se os Balais não concordam em respeitar estes termos, eles devem limpar as aldeias. O Balais recusou-se a cumprir-se e o elemento hindu procedeu contra eles. Balais não tinha permissão para tirar água dos poços da aldeia, não podendo deixar seu gado pastar. Os Balais foram proibidos de passar por terras pertencentes a um hindu, de modo que se o campo de um Balai fosse cercado por campos pertencentes a hindus, o Balai não poderia ter acesso ao seu próprio campo. Os hindus também deixaram seu gado pastar os campos de Balais. Os Balais apresentaram petições ao Darbar contra essas perseguições, mas como não podiam obter alívio oportuno e a opressão continuava, centenas de Balais com suas esposas e filhos foram obrigados a abandonar suas casas em que seus antepassados ​​viveram por gerações e migraram para adjacentes Estados, viz. Para aldeias em Dhar, Dewas, Bagli, Bhopal, Gwalior e outros Estados. O que aconteceu com eles em suas novas casas pode, no presente, ser deixado fora de nossa consideração. O incidente em Kavitha em Gujarat aconteceu apenas no ano passado. Os hindus de Kavitha ordenaram que os intocáveis ​​não insistissem em enviar seus filhos para a escola comum da aldeia mantida pelo governo. Quais os sofrimentos que os intocáveis ​​de Kavitha tiveram que sofrer por ousar exercer um direito cívico contra os desejos dos hindus é muito bem conhecido por precisar de uma descrição detalhada. Ocorreu outra ocorrência na vila de Zanu, no distrito de Ahmedabad, em Gujarat. Em novembro de 1935, algumas mulheres intocadas de famílias bem-sucedidas começaram a buscar água em potes metálicos. Os hindus olharam para o uso de potes de metal por intocáveis ​​como uma afronta à sua dignidade e agrediram as mulheres intocáveis ​​por sua impudência. Um evento mais recente é relatado da aldeia de Chakwara, no estado de Jaipur. Parece dos relatórios que apareceram nos jornais que um intocável de Chakwara, que havia retornado de uma peregrinação, havia organizado para dar um jantar aos seus amigos intocáveis ​​da aldeia como um ato de piedade religiosa. O anfitrião desejava tratar os convidados para uma refeição suntuosa e os itens servidos incluíam ghee (manteiga) também. Mas enquanto a assembléia de intocáveis ​​estava empenhada em participar da comida, os hindus em seus cem, armados com lathis, correu para a cena, despojaram a comida e belabaram os intocáveis ​​que deixaram a comida com que foram servidos e fugiram para suas vidas . E por que este assalto assassino cometeu em intocáveis ​​indefesos. O motivo dado é que o anfitrião intocável era impudente o suficiente para servir o ghee e seus convidados intocáveis ​​eram tolos o suficiente para prová-lo. Ghee é, sem dúvida, um luxo para os ricos. Mas ninguém pensaria que o consumo de ghee era uma marca de alto status social. Os hindus de Chakwara pensaram de outra forma e, com justa indignação, vingaram-se do mal feito a eles pelos intocáveis, que os insultaram ao tratar o ghee como um item de sua comida que eles deveriam ter conhecido não poderia ser deles, consistentemente com a dignidade de Os hindus. Isso significa que um intocável não deve usar o ghee, mesmo que ele possa se dar ao luxo de comprá-lo, pois é um ato de arrogância em relação aos hindus. Isso aconteceu no dia 1 de abril de 1936, ou depois de ter declarado os fatos, deixe-me agora declarar o caso da reforma social. Ao fazer isso, seguirei o Sr. Bonnerji o máximo possível e perguntei aos hindus de mentalidade política. Você é apto para o poder político, mesmo que você não permita que uma grande classe de seus próprios compatriotas goste de intocáveis ​​para usar a escola pública . Você está apto para o poder político, embora você não lhes permita o uso de poços públicos. Você está apto para o poder político, mesmo que você não lhes permita o uso de ruas públicas. Você está apto para o poder político, embora você não permita que eles venham a vestir roupas ou ornamentos que eles gostem. Você está apto para o poder político, embora você não permita que eles comam qualquer comida que eles gostem. 8221 Posso fazer uma série dessas perguntas. Mas isso bastará, eu me pergunto qual teria sido a resposta do Sr. Bonnerji. Estou certo de que nenhum homem sensato terá a coragem de dar uma resposta afirmativa. Todo congressista que repete o dogma de Mill que um país não é adequado para governar outro país deve admitir que uma classe não é adequada para governar outra classe. Como é então que o Partido da Reforma Social durou a batalha. Para entender isso corretamente, é necessário tomar nota do tipo de reforma social que os reformadores estavam agitando. Neste contexto, é necessário fazer uma distinção entre a reforma social no sentido da reforma da família hindu e a reforma social no sentido da reorganização e reconstrução da sociedade hindu. O primeiro tem relação com o casamento novo, o casamento infantil, etc., enquanto o último se relaciona com a abolição do sistema Caste. A Conferência Social foi um órgão que se preocupou principalmente com a reforma da família hindu de alta casta. Consistia principalmente de hindus de castas iluminadas e altas que não sentiam a necessidade de agitar a abolição da casta ou não tinham a coragem de agitar para ela. Eles sentiram, naturalmente, um desejo maior de remover os males como a viúva forçada, casamentos infantis, etc. males que prevaleceram entre eles e que foram pessoalmente sentidos por eles. Eles não defenderam a reforma da sociedade hindu. A batalha que foi travada centrou-se na questão da reforma da família. Não se relacionava com a reforma social no sentido da ruptura do sistema de castas. Nunca foi posta em questão pelos reformadores. Essa é a razão pela qual o Partido da reforma social perdeu. Estou ciente de que esse argumento não pode alterar o fato de que a reforma política de fato ganhou precedência sobre a reforma social. Mas o argumento tem esse valor muito, se não mais. Isso explica por que os reformadores sociais perderam a batalha. Também nos ajuda a entender quão limitada foi a vitória que o Partido da Reforma Política obteve sobre o Partido da Reforma Social e que a visão de que a reforma social não precisa preceder a reforma política é uma visão que só pode suportar quando a reforma social significa a reforma de a família. Que a reforma política não pode, com impunidade, prevalecer sobre a reforma social no sentido da reconstrução da sociedade é uma tese que, com certeza, não posso ser controvertida. Que os criadores de constituições políticas devem ter em conta as forças sociais é um fato reconhecido por não menos uma pessoa que Ferdinand Lassalle, amigo e colega de trabalho de Karl Marx. Ao dirigir-se a uma audiência prussiana em 1862, Lassalle disse: 8221 As questões constitucionais são, em primeira instância, não questões de direito, mas questões de poder. A constituição real de um país tem sua existência apenas na condição real de força que existe no país. Portanto, as constituições políticas têm valor e permanência somente quando expressam com precisão as condições de forças que existem na prática dentro de uma sociedade8221. Mas não é necessário ir para a Prússia. Há evidências em casa. Qual é o significado do Prêmio Comunal com a alocação do poder político em proporções definidas para diversas classes e comunidades. Na minha opinião, é importante que a constituição política tome em consideração a organização social. Isso mostra que os políticos que negaram que o problema social na Índia tenham influência no problema político foram forçados a considerar o problema social na elaboração da constituição. O Prêmio Comunal é assim dizer o inimigo após a indiferença e negligência da reforma social. É uma vitória para o Partido da Reforma Social, que mostra que, embora derrotados, eles estavam no direito de insistir na importância da reforma social. Muitos, eu sei, não aceitarão essa descoberta. A visão é atual, e é agradável acreditar nele, que o Prêmio Comunal não é natural e que é o resultado de uma aliança profana entre as minorias e a burocracia. Eu não quero confiar no Prêmio Comunal como uma evidência para sustentar minha afirmação, se for dito que não é uma boa evidência. Let us turn to Ireland. What does the history of Irish Home Rule show. It is well-known that in the course of the negotiations between the representatives of Ulster and Southern Ireland, Mr. Redmond, the representative of Southern Ireland, in order to bring Ulster in a Home Rule Constitution common to the whole of Ireland said to the representatives of Ulster. 8221 Ask any political safeguards you like and you shall have them.8221 What was the reply that Ulstermen gave. Their reply was 8221 Damn your safeguards, we don8217t want to be ruled by you on any terms.8221 People who blame the minorities in India ought to consider what would have happened to the political aspirations of the majority if the minorities had taken the attitude which Ulster took. Judged by the attitude of Ulster to Irish Home Rule, is it noting that the minorities agreed to be ruled by the majority which has not shown much sense of statesmanship, provided some safeguards were devised for them. But this is only incidental. The main question is why did Ulster take this attitude. The only answer I can give is that there was a social problem between Ulster and Southern Ireland the problem between Catholics and Protestants, essentially a problem of Caste. That Home Rule in Ireland would be Rome Rule was the way in which the Ulstermen had framed their answer. But that is only another way of stating that it was the social problem of Caste between the Catholics and Protestants, which prevented the solution of the political problem. This evidence again is sure to be challenged. It will be urged that here too the hand of the Imperialist was at work. But my resources are not exhausted. I will give evidence from the History of Rome. Here no one can say that any evil genius was at work. Any one who has studied the History of Rome will know that the Republican Constitution of Rome bore marks having strong resemblance to the Communal Award. When the kingship in Rome was abolished, the Kingly power or the Imperium was divided between the Consuls and the Pontifex Maximus. In the Consuls was vested the secular authority of the King, while the latter took over the religious authority of King. This Republican Constitution had provided that, of the two Consuls one was to be Patrician and the other Plebian. The same constitution had also provided that, of the Priests under the Pontifex Maximus, half were to be Plebians and the other half Patricians. Why is it that the Republican Constitution of Rome had these provisions which, as I said, resemble so strongly the provisions of the Communal Award. The only answer one can get is that the Constitution of Republican Rome had to take account of the social division between the Patricians and the Plebians, who formed two distinct castes. To sum up, let political reformers turn to any direction they like, they will find that in the making of a constitution, they cannot ignore the problem arising out of the prevailing social order. The illustrations which I have taken in support of the proposition that social and religious problems have a bearing on political constitutions seem to be too particular. Perhaps they are. But it should not be supposed that the bearing of the one on the other is limited. On the other hand one can say that generally speaking History bears out the proposition that political revolutions have always been preceded by social and religious revolutions. The religious Reformation started by Luther was the precursor of the political emancipation of the European people. In England Puritanism led to the establishment of political liberty. Puritanism founded the new world. It was Puritanism which won the war of American Independence and Puritanism was a religious movement. The same is true of the Muslim Empire. Before the Arabs became a political power they had undergone a thorough religious revolution started by the Prophet Mohammad. Even Indian History supports the same conclusion. The political revolution led by Chandragupta was preceded by the religious and social revolution of Buddha. The political revolution led by Shivaji was preceded by the religious and social reform brought about by the saints of Maharashtra. The political revolution of the Sikhs was preceded by the religious and social revolution led by Guru Nanak. It is unnecessary to add more illustrations. These will suffice to show that the emancipation of the mind and the soul is a necessary preliminary for the political expansion of the people. Let me now turn to the Socialists. Can the Socialists ignore the problem arising out of the social order. The Socialists of India following their fellows in Europe are seeking to apply the economic interpretation of history to the facts of India. They propound that man is an economic creature, that his activities and aspirations are bound by economic facts, that property is the only source of power. They, therefore, preach that political and social reforms are but gigantic illusions and that economic reform by equalization of property must have precedence over every other kind of reform. One may join issue on every one of these premises on which rests the Socialists8217 case for economic reform having priority over every other kind of reform. One may contend that economic motive is not the only motive by which man is actuated. That economic power is the only kind of power no student of human society can accept. That the social status of an individual by itself often becomes a source of power and authority is made clear by the sway which the Mahatmos have held over the common man. Why do millionaires in India obey penniless Sadhus and Fakirs. Why do millions of paupers in India sell their trifling trinkets which constitute their only wealth and go to Benares and Mecca. That, religion is the source of power is illustrated by the history of India where the priest holds a sway over the common man often greater than the magistrate and where everything, even such things as strikes and elections, so easily take a religious turn and can so easily be given a religious twist. Take the case of the Plebians of Rome as a further illustration of the power of religion over man. It throws great light on this point. The Plebs had fought for a share in the supreme executive under the Roman Republic and had secured the appointment of a Plebian Consul elected by a separate electorate constituted by the Commitia Centuriata, which was an assembly of Piebians. They wanted a Consul of their own because they felt that the Patrician Consuls used to discriminate against the Plebians in carrying on the administration. They had apparently obtained a great gain because under the Republican Constitution of Rome one Consul had the power of vetoing an act of the other Consul. But did they in fact gain anything. The answer to this question must be in the negative. The Plebians never could get a Plebian Consul who could be said to be a strong man and who could act independently of the Patrician Consul. In the ordinary course of things the Plebians should have got a strong Plebian Consul in view of the fact that his election was to be by a separate electorate of Plebians. The question is why did they fail in getting a strong Plebian to officiate as their Consul The answer to this question reveals the dominion which religion exercises over the minds of men. It was an accepted creed of the whole Roman populus that no official could enter upon the duties of his office unless the Oracle of Delphi declared that he was acceptable to the Goddess. The priests who were in charge of the temple of the Goddess of Delphi were all Patricians. Whenever therefore the Plebians elected a Consul who was known to be a strong party man opposed to the Patricians or 8221 communal 8221 to use the term that is current in India, the Oracle invariably declared that he was not acceptable to the Goddess. This is how the Plebians were cheated out of their rights. But what is worthy of note is that the Plebians permitted themselves to be thus cheated because they too like the Patricians, held firmly the belief that the approval of the Goddess was a condition precedent to the taking charge by an official of his duties and that election by the people was not enough. If the Plebians had contended that election was enough and that the approval by the Goddess was not necessary they would have derived the fullest benefit from the political right which they had obtained. But they did not. They agreed to elect another, less suitable to themselves but more suitable to the Goddess which in fact meant more amenable to the Patricians. Rather than give up religion, the Plebians give up material gain for which they had fought so hard. Does this not show that religion can be a source of power as great as money if not greater. The fallacy of the Socialists lies in supposing that because in the present stage of European Society property as a source of power is predominant, that the same is true of India or that the same was true of Europe in the past. Religion, social status and property are all sources of power and authority, which one man has, to control the liberty of another. One is predominant at one stage the other is predominant at another stage. That is the only difference. If liberty is the ideal, if liberty means the destruction of the dominion which one man holds over another then obviously it cannot be insisted upon that economic reform must be the one kind of reform worthy of pursuit. If the source of power and dominion is at any given time or in any given society social and religious then social reform and religious reform must be accepted as the necessary sort of reform. One can thus attack the doctrine of Economic Interpretation of History adopted by the Socialists of India. But I recognize that economic interpretation of history is not necessary for the validity of the Socialist contention that equalization of property is the only real reform and that it must precede everything else. However, what I like to ask the Socialists is this. Can you have economic reform without first bringing about a reform of the social order. The Socialists of India do not seem to have considered this question. I do not wish to do them an injustice. I give below a quotation from a letter which a prominent Socialist wrote a few days ago to a friend of mine in which he said, 8221 I do not believe that we can build up a free society in India so long as there is a trace of this ill-treatment and suppression of one class by another. Believing as I do in a socialist ideal, inevitably I believe in perfect equality in the treatment of various classes and groups. I think that Socialism offers the only true remedy for this as well as other problems.8221 Now the question that I like to ask is. Is it enough for a Socialist to say, 8221 I believe in perfect equality in the treatment of the various classes. 8221 To say that such a belief is enough is to disclose a complete lack of understanding of what is involved in Socialism. If Socialism is a practical programme and is not merely an ideal, distant and far off, the question for a Socialist is not whether he believes in equality. The question for him is whether he minds one class ill-treating and suppressing another class as a matter of system, as a matter of principle and thus allow tyranny and oppression to continue to divide one class from another. Let me analyse the factors that are involved in the realization of Socialism in order to explain fully my point. Now it is obvious that the economic reform contemplated by the Socialists cannot come about unless there is a revolution resulting in the seizure of power. That seizure of power must be by a proletariat. The first question I ask is. Will the proletariat of India combine to bring about this revolution. What will move men to such an action. It seems to me that other things being equal the only thing that will move one man to take such an action is the feeling that other man with whom he is acting are actuated by feeling of equality and fraternity and above all of justice. Men will not join in a revolution for the equalization of property unless they know that after the revolution is achieved they will be treated equally and that there will be no discrimination of caste and creed. The assurance of a socialist leading the revolution that he does not believe in caste, I am sure, will not suffice. The assurance must be the assurance proceeding from much deeper foundation, namely, the mental attitude of the compatriots towards one another in their spirit of personal equality and fraternity. Can it be said that the proletariat of India, poor as it is, recognise no distinctions except that of the rich and the poor. Can it be said that the poor in India recognize no such distinctions of caste or creed, high or low. If the fact is that they do, what unity of front can be expected from such a proletariat in its action against the rich. How can there be a revolution if the proletariat cannot present a united front Suppose for the sake of argument that by some freak of fortune a revolution does take place and the Socialists come in power, will they not have to deal with the problems created by the particular social order prevalent in India. I can8217t see how a Socialist State in India can function for a second without having to grapple with the problems created by the prejudices which make Indian people observe the distinctions of high and low, clean and unclean. If Socialists are not to be content with the mouthing of fine phrases, if the Socialists wish to make Socialism a definite reality then they must recognize that the problem of social reform is fundamental and that for them there is no escape from it. That, the social order prevalent in India is a matter which a Socialist must deal with, that unless he does so he cannot achieve his revolution and that if he does achieve it as a result of good fortune he will have to grapple with it if he wishes to realize his ideal, is a proposition which in my opinion is incontrovertible. He will be compelled to take account of caste after revolution if he does not take account of it before revolution. This is only another way of saying that, turn in any direction you like, caste is the monster that crosses your path. You cannot have political reform, you cannot have economic reform, unless you kill this monster. It is a pity that Caste even today has its defenders. The defences are many. It is defended on the ground that the Caste System is but another name for division of labour and if division of labour is a necessary feature of every civilized society then it is argued that there is nothing wrong in the Caste System. Now the first thing is to be urged against this view is that Caste System is not merely division of labour. It is also a division of labourers. Civilized society undoubtedly needs division of labour. But in no civilized society is division of labour accompanied by this unnatural division of labourers into watertight compartments. Caste System is not merely a division of labourers which is quite different from division of labourit is an hierarchy in which the divisions of labourers are graded one above the other. In no other country is the division of labour accompanied by this gradation of labourers. There is also a third point of criticism against this view of the Caste System. This division of labour is not spontaneous it is not based on natural aptitudes. Social and individual efficiency requires us to develop the capacity of an individual to the point of competency to choose and to make his own career. This principle is violated in the Caste System in so far as it involves an attempt to appoint tasks to individuals in advance, selected not on the basis of trained original capacities, but on that of the social status of the parents. Looked at from another point of view this stratification of occupations which is the result of the Caste System is positively pernicious. Industry is never static. It undergoes rapid and abrupt changes. With such changes an individual must be free to change his occupation. Without such freedom to adjust himself to changing circumstances it would be impossible for him to gain his livelihood. Now the Caste System will not allow Hindus to take to occupations where they are wanted if they do not belong to them by heredity. If a Hindu is seen to starve rather than take to new occupations not assigned to his Caste, the reason is to be found in the Caste System. By not permitting readjustment of occupations, caste becomes a direct cause of much of the unemployment we see in the country. As a form of division of labour the Caste system suffers from another serious defect. The division of labour brought about by the Caste System is not a division based on choice. Individual sentiment, individual preference has no place in it. It is based on the dogma of predestination. Considerations of social efficiency would compel us to recognize that the greatest evil in the industrial system is not: so much poverty and the suffering that it involves as the fact that so many persons have callings which make no appeal to those who are engaged in them. Such callings constantly provoke one to aversion, ill will and the desire to evade. There are many occupations in India which on account of the fact that they are regarded as degraded by the Hindus provoke those who are engaged in them to aversion. There is a constant desire to evade and escape from such occupations which arises solely because of the blighting effect which they produce upon those who follow them owing to the slight and stigma cast upon them by the Hindu religion. What efficiency can there be in a system under which neither men8217s hearts nor their minds are in their work As an economic organization Caste is therefore a harmful institution, inasmuch as, it involves the subordination of man8217s natural powers and inclinations to the exigencies of social rules Some have dug a biological trench in defence of the Caste System. It is said that the object of Caste was to preserve purity of race and purity of blood. Now ethnologists are of opinion that men of pure race exist nowhere and that there has been a mixture of all races in all parts of the world. Especially is this the case with the people of India. Mr. D. R. Bhandarkar in his paper on Foreign Elements in the Hindu Population has stated that 8221 There is hardly a class, or Caste in India which has not a foreign strain in it. There is an admixture of alien blood not only among the warrior classesthe Rajputs and the Marathasbut also among the Brahmins who are under the happy delusion that they are free from all foreign elements.8221 The Caste system cannot be said to have grown as a means of preventing the admixture of races or as a means of maintaining purity of blood. As a matter of fact Caste system came into being long after the different races of India had commingled in blood and culture. To hold that distinctions of Castes or really distinctions of race and to treat different Castes as though they were so many different races is a gross perversion of facts. What racial affinity is there between the Brahmin of the Punjab and the Brahmin of Madras. What racial affinity is there between the untouchable of Bengal and the untouchable of Madras. What racial difference is there between the Brahmin of the Punjab and the Chamar of the Punjab. What racial difference is there between the Brahmin of Madras and the Pariah of Madras. The Brahmin of the Punjab is racially of the same stock as the Chamar of the Punjab and the Brahmin of Madras is of the same race as the Pariah of Madras. Caste system does not demarcate racial division. Caste system is a social division of people of the same race. Assuming it, however, to be a case of racial divisions one may ask. What harm could there be if a mixture of races and of blood was permitted to take place in India by intermarriages between different Castes. Men are no doubt divided from animals by so deep a distinction that science recognizes men and animals as two distinct species. But even scientists who believe in purity of races do not assert that the different races constitute different species of men. They are only varieties of one and the same species. As such they can interbreed and produce an offspring which is capable of breeding and which is not sterile. An immense lot of nonsense is talked about heredity and eugenics in defence of the Caste System. Few would object to the Caste System if it was in accord with the basic principle of eugenics because few can object to the improvement of the race by judicious noting. But one fails to understand how the Caste System secures judicious mating. Caste System is a negative thing. It merely prohibits persons belonging to different Castes from intermarrying. It is not a positive method of selecting which two among a given Caste should marry. If Caste is eugenic in origin then the origin of sub-Castes must also be eugenic. But can any one seriously maintain that the origin of sub-Castes is eugenic. I think it would be absurd to contend for such a proposition and for a very obvious reason. If Caste means race then differences of sub-Castes cannot mean differences of race because sub-Castes become ex hypothesia sub-divisions of one and the same race. Consequently the bar against intermarrying and interdining between sub-Castes cannot be for the purpose of maintaining purity of race or of blood. If sub-Castes cannot be eugenic in origin there cannot be any substance in the contention that Caste is eugenic in origin. Again if Caste is eugenic in origin one can understand the bar against intermarriage. But what is the purpose of the interdict placed on interdining between Castes and sub-Castes alike. Interdining cannot infect blood and therefore cannot be the cause either of the improvement or of deterioration of the race. This shows that Caste has no scientific origin and that those who are attempting to give it an eugenic basis are trying to support by science what is grossly unscientific. Even today eugenics cannot become a practical possibility unless we have definite knowledge regarding the laws of heredity. Prof. Bateson in his Mendel8217s Principles of Heredity says, 8221 There is nothing in the descent of the higher mental qualities to suggest that they follow any single system of transmission. It is likely that both they and the more marked developments of physical powers result rather from the coincidence of numerous factors than from the possession of any one genetic element.8221 To argue that the Caste System was eugenic in its conception is to attribute to the forefathers of present-day Hindus a knowledge of heredity which even the modern scientists do not possess. A tree should be judged by the fruits it yields. If caste is eugenic what sort of a race of men it should have produced. Physically speaking the Hindus are a C3 people. They are a race of Pygmies and dwarfs stunted in stature and wanting in stamina. It is a nation 91Oths of which is declared to be unfit for military service. This shows that the Caste System does not embody the eugenics of modem scientists. It is a social system which embodies the arrogance and selfishness of a perverse section of the Hindus who were superior enough in social status to set it in fashion and who had authority to force it on their inferiors. Caste does not result in economic efficiency. Caste cannot and has not improved the race. Caste has however done one thing. It has completely disorganized and demoralized the Hindus. The first and foremost thing that must be recognized is that Hindu Society is a myth. The name Hindu is itself a foreign name. It was given by the Mohammedans to the natives for the purpose of distinguishing themselves. It does not occur in any Sanskrit work prior to the Mohammedan invasion. They did not feel the necessity of a common name because they had no conception of their having constituted a community. Hindu society as such does not exist. It is only a collection of castes. Each caste is conscious of its existence. Its survival is the be all and end all of its existence. Castes do not even form a federation. A caste has no feeling that it is affiliated to other castes except when there is a Hindu-Muslim riot. On all other occasions each caste endeavours to segregate itself and to distinguish itself from other castes. Each caste not only dines among itself and marries among itself but each caste prescribes its own distinctive dress. What other explanation can there be of the innumerable styles of dress worn by the men and women of India which so amuse the tourists. Indeed the ideal Hindu must be like a rat living in his own hole refusing to have any contact with others. There is an utter lack among the Hindus of what the sociologists call 8221 consciousness of kind 8220. There is no Hindu consciousness of kind. In every Hindu the consciousness that exists is the consciousness of his caste. That is the reason why the Hindus cannot be said to form a society or a nation. There are however many Indians whose patriotism does not permit them to admit that Indians are not a nation, that they are only an amorphous mass of people. They have insisted that underlying the apparent diversity there is a fundamental unity which marks the life of the Hindus in as much as there is a similarity of habits and customs, beliefs and thoughts which obtain all over the continent of India. Similarity in habits and customs, beliefs and thoughts there is. But one cannot accept the conclusion that therefore, the Hindus constitute a society. To do so is to misunderstand the essentials which go to make up a society. Men do not become a society by living in physical proximity any more than a man ceases to be a member of his society by living so many miles away from other men. Secondly similarity in habits and customs, beliefs and thoughts is not enough to constitute men into society. Things may be passed physically from one to another like bricks. In the same way habits and customs, beliefs and thoughts of one group may be taken over by another group and there may thus appear a similarity between the two. Culture spreads by diffusion and that is why one finds similarity between various primitive tribes in the matter of their habits and customs, beliefs and thoughts, although they do not live in proximity. But no one could say that because there was this similarity the primitive tribes constituted one society. This is because similarly in certain things is not enough to constitute a society. Men constitute a society because they have things which they possess in common. To have similar thing is totally different from possessing things in common. And the only way by which men can come to possess things in common with one another is by being in communication with one another. This is merely another way of saying that Society continues to exist by communication indeed in communication. To make it concrete, it is not enough if men act in a way which agrees with the acts of others. Parallel activity, even if similar, is not sufficient to bind men into a society. This is proved by the fact that the festivals observed by the different Castes amongst the Hindus are the same. Yet these parallel performances of similar festivals by the different castes have not bound them into one integral whole. For that purpose what is necessary is for a man to share and participate in a common activity so that the same emotions are aroused in him that animate the others. Making the individual a sharer or partner in the associated activity so that he feels its success as his success, its failure as his failure is the real thing that binds men and makes a society of them. The Caste System prevents common activity and by preventing common activity it has prevented the Hindus from becoming a society with a unified life and a consciousness of its own being. The Hindus often complain of the isolation and exclusiveness of a gang or a clique and blame them for anti-social spirit. But they conveniently forget that this anti-social spirit is the worst feature of their own Caste System. One caste enjoys singing a hymn of hate against another caste as much as the Germans did in singing their hymn of hate against the English during the last war. The literature of the Hindus is full of caste genealogies in which an attempt is made to give a noble origin to one caste and an ignoble origin to other castes. The Sahyadrikhand is a notorious instance of this class of literature. This anti-social spirit is not confined to caste alone. It has gone deeper and has poisoned the mutual relations of the sub-castes as well. In my province the Golak Brahmins, Deorukha Brahmins, Karada Brahmins, Palshe Brahmins and Chitpavan Brahmins, all claim to be sub-divisions of the Brahmin Caste. But the anti-social spirit that prevails between them is quite as marked and quite as virulent as the anti-social spirit that prevails between them and other non-Brahmin castes. There is nothing strange in this. An anti-social spirit is found wherever one group has 8221 interests of its own 8221 which shut it out from full interaction with other groups, so that its prevailing purpose is protection of what it has got. This anti-social spirit, this spirit of protecting its own interests is as much a marked feature of the different castes in their isolation from one another as it is of nations in their isolation. The Brahmin8217s primary concern is to protect 8221 his interest 8221 against those of the non-Brahmins and the non-Brahmin8217s primary concern is to protect their interests against those of the Brahmins. The Hindus, therefore, are not merely an assortment of castes but they are so many warring groups each living for itself and for its selfish ideal. There is another feature of caste which is deplorable. The ancestors of the present-day English fought on one side or the other in the wars of the Roses and the Cromwellian War. But the decendents of those who fought on the one side do not bear any animosity any grudge against the descendents of those who fought on the other side. The feud is forgotten. But the present-day non-Brahmins cannot forgive the present-day Brahmins for the insult their ancestors gave to Shivaji. The present-day Kayasthas will not forgive the present-day Brahmins for the infamy cast upon their forefathers by the forefathers of the latter. To what is this difference due. Obviously to the Caste System. The existence of Caste and Caste Consciousness has served to keep the memory of past feuds between castes green and has prevented solidarity. The recent discussion about the excluded and partially included areas has served to draw attention to the position of what are called the aboriginal tribes in India. They number about 13 millions if not more. Apart from the questions whether their exclusion from the new Constitution is proper or improper, the fact still remains that these aborigines have remained in their primitive uncivilized State in a land which boasts of a civilization thousands of years old. Not only are they not civilized but some of them follow pursuits which have led to their being classified as criminals. Thirteen millions of people living in the midst of civilization are still in a savage state and are leading the life of hereditary criminals. But the Hindus have never felt ashamed of it. This is a phenomenon which in my view is quite unparalleled. What is the cause of this shameful state of affairs. Why has no attempt been made to civilize these aborigines and to lead them to take to a more honourable way of making a living. The Hindus will probably seek to account for this savage state of the aborigines by attributing to them congenital stupidity. They will probably not admit that the aborigines have remained savages because they had made no effort to civilize them, to give them medical aid, to reform them, to make them good citizens. But supposing a Hindu wished to do what the Christian missionary is doing for these aborigines, could he have done it. I submit not. Civilizing the aborigines means adopting them as your own, living in their midst, and cultivating fellow-feeling, in short loving them. How is it possible for a Hindu to do this. His whole life is one anxious effort to preserve his caste. Caste is his precious possession which he must save at any cost. He cannot consent to lose it by establishing contact with the aborigines the remnants of the hateful Anary as of the Vedic days. Not that a Hindu could not be taught the sense of duty to fallen humanity, but the trouble is that no amount of sense of duty can enable him to overcome his duty to preserve his caste. Caste is, therefore, the real explanation as to why the Hindu has let the savage remain a savage in the midst of his civilization without blushing or without feeling any sense of remorse or repentance. The Hindu has not realized that these aborigines are a source of potential danger. If these savages remain savages they may not do any harm to the Hindus. But if they are reclaimed by non-Hindus and converted to their faiths they will swell the ranks of the enemies of the Hindus. If this happens the Hindu will have to thank himself and his Caste System. Not only has the Hindu made no effort for the humanitarian cause of civilizing the savages but the higher-caste Hindus have deliberately prevented the lower castes who are within the pale of Hinduism from rising to the cultural level of the higher castes. 1. will give two instances, one of the Sonars and the other of the Pathare Prabhus. Both are communities quite well-known in Maharashtra. Like the rest of the communities desiring to raise their status these two communities were at one time endeavouring to adopt some of the ways and habits of the Brahmins. The Sonars were styling themselves Daivadnya Brahmins and were wearing their 8221 dhotis 8221 with folds on and using the word namaskar for salutation. Both, the folded way of wearing the 8221 dhoti 8221 and the namaskar were special to the Brahmins. The Brahmins did not like this imitation and this attempt by Sonars to pass off as Brahmins. Under the authority of the Peshwas the Brahmins successfully put down this attempt on the part. of the Sonars to adopt the ways of the Brahmins. They even got the President of the Councils of the East India Company8217s settlement in Bombay to issue a. prohibitory order against the Sonars residing in Bombay. At one time the Pathare Prabhus had widow-remarriage as a custom of their caste. This custom of widow-remarriage was later on looked upon as amark of social inferiority by some members of the caste especially because it was contrary to the custom prevalent among the Brahmins. With the object of raising the status of their community some Pathare Prabhus sought to stop this practice of widow-remarriage that was prevalent in their caste. The community was divided into two camps, one for and the other against the innovation. The Peshwas took the side of those in favour of widow-remarriage and thus virtually prohibited the Pathare Prabhus from following the ways of the Brahmins. The Hindus criticise the Mohammedans for having spread their religion by the use of the sword. They also ridicule Christianity on the score of the inquisition. But really speaking who is better and more worthy of our respectthe Mohammedans and Christians who attempted to thrust down the throats of unwilling persons what they regarded as necessary for their salvation or the Hindu who would not spread the light, who would endeavour to keep others in darkness, who would not consent to share his intellectual and social inheritance with those who are ready and willing to make it a part of their own make-up. I have no hesitation in saying that if the Mohammedan has been cruel the Hindu has been mean and meanness is worse than cruelty. Whether the Hindu religion was or was not a missionary religion has been a controversial issue. Some hold the view that it was never a missionary religion. Others hold that it was. That the Hindu religion was once a missionary religion must be admitted. It could not have spread over the face of India, if it was not a missionary religion. That today it is not a missionary religion is also a fact which must be accepted. The question therefore is not whether or not the Hindu religion was a missionary religion. The real question is why did the Hindu religion cease to be a missionary religion. My answer is this. Hindu religion ceased to be a missionary religion when the Caste System grew up among the Hindus. Caste is inconsistent with conversion. Inculcation of beliefs and dogmas is not the only problem that is involved in conversion. To find a place for the convert in the social life of the community is another and a much more important problem that arises in connection with conversion. That problem is where to place the convert, in what caste. It is a problem which must baffle every Hindu wishing to make aliens converts to his religion. Unlike the club the membership of a caste is not open to all and sundry. The law of caste confines its membership to person born in the caste. Castes are autonomous and there is no authority anywhere to compel a caste to admit a new-comer to its social life. Hindu Society being a collection of castes and each caste being a close corporation there is no place for a convert. Thus it is the caste which has prevented the Hindus from expanding and from absorbing other religious communities. So long as caste remain, Hindu religion cannot be made a missionary religion and Shudhi will be both a folly and a futility. The reasons which have made Shudhi impossible for Hindus are also responsible for making Sanghatan impossible. The idea underlying Sanghalan is to remove from the mind of the Hindu that timidity and cowardice which so painfully make him off from the Mohammedan and the Sikh and which have led him to adopt the low ways of treachery and cunning for protecting himself. The question naturally arises. From where does the Sikh or the Mohammedan derive his strength which makes him brave and fearless. I am sure it is not due to relative superiority of physical strength, diet or drill. It is due to the strength arising out of the feeling that all Sikhs will come to the rescue of a Sikh when he is in danger and that all Mohammedans will rush to save a Muslim if he is attacked. The Hindu can derive no such strength. He cannot feel assured that his fellows will come to his help. Being one and fated to be alone he remains powerless, develops timidity and cowardice and in a fight surrenders or runs away. The Sikh as well as the Muslim stands fearless and gives battle because he knows that though one he will not be alone. The presence of this belief in the one helps him to hold out and the absence of it in the other makes him to give way. If you pursue this matter further and ask what is it that enables the Sikh and the Mohammedan to feel so assured and why is the Hindu filled with such despair in the matter of help and assistance you will find that the reasons for this difference lie in the difference in their associated mode of living. The associated mode of life practised by the Sikhs and the Mohammedans produces fellow-feeling. The associated mode of life of the Hindus does not. Among Sikhs and Muslims there is a social cement which makes them Bhais. Among Hindus there is no such cement and one Hindu does not regard another Hindu as his Bhai. This explains why a Sikh says and feels that one Sikh, or one Khalsa is equal to Sava Lakh men. This explains why one Mohammedan is equal to a crowd of Hindus. This difference is undoubtedly a difference due to caste. So long as caste remains, there will be no Sanghalan and so long as there is no Sanghatan the Hindu will remain weak and meek. The Hindus claim to be a very tolerant people. In my opinion this is a mistake. On many occasions they can be intolerant and if on some occasions they are tolerant that is because they are too weak to oppose or too indifferent to oppose. This indifference of the Hindus has become so much a part of their nature that a Hindu will quite meekly tolerate an insult as well as a wrong. You see amongst them, to use the words of Morris, 8221 The great reading down the little, the strong beating down the weak, cruel men fearing not, kind men daring not and wise men caring not.8221 With the Hindu Gods all forbearing, it is not difficult to imagine the pitiable condition of the wronged and the oppressed among the Hindus. Indifferentism is the worst kind of disease that can infect a people. Why is the Hindu so indifferent In my opinion this indifferentism is the result of Caste System which has made Sanghatan and co-operation even for a good cause impossible. The assertion by the individual of his own opinions and beliefs, his own independence and interest as over against group standards, group authority and group interests is the beginning of all reform. But whether the reform will continue depends upon what scope the group affords for such individual assertion. If the group is tolerant and fair-minded in dealing with such individuals they will continue to assert and in the end succeed in converting their fellows. On the other hand if the group is intolerant and does not bother about the means it adopts to stifle such individuals they will perish and the reform will die out. Now a caste has an unquestioned right to excommunicate any man who is guilty of breaking the rules of the caste and when it is realized that excommunication involves a complete cesser of social intercourse it will be agreed that as a form of punishment there is really little to choose between excommunication and death. No wonder individual Hindus have not had the courage to assert their independence by breaking the barriers of caste. It is true that man cannot get on with his fellows. But it is also true that he cannot do without them. He would like to have the society of his fellows on his terms. If be cannot get it on his terms then he will be ready to have it on any terms even amounting to complete surrender. This is because he cannot do without society. A caste is ever ready to take advantage of the helplessness of a man and insist upon complete conformity to its code in letter and in spirit. A caste can easily organize itself into a conspiracy to make the life of a reformer a hell and if a conspiracy is a crime I do not understand why such a nefarious act as an attempt to excommunicate a person for daring to act contrary to the rules of caste should not be made an offence punishable in law. But as it is, even law gives each caste an autonomy to regulate its membership and punish dissenters with excommunication. Caste in the hands of the orthodox has been a powerful weapon for persecuting the reforms and for killing all reform. The effect of caste on the ethics of the Hindus is simply deplorable. Caste has killed public spirit. Caste has destroyed the sense of public charity. Caste has made public opinion impossible. A Hindu8217s public is his caste. His responsibility is only to his caste. His loyalty is restricted only to his caste. Virtue has become caste-ridden and morality has become, caste-bound. There is no sympathy to the deserving. There is no appreciation of the meritorious. There is no charity to the needy. Suffering as such calls for no response. There is charity but it begins with the caste and ends with the caste. There is sympathy but not for men of other caste. Would a Hindu acknowledge and follow the leadership of a great and good man The case of a Mahatma apart, the answer must be that he will follow a leader if he is a man of his caste. A Brahmin will follow a leader only if he is a Brahmin, a Kayastha if he is a Kayastha and so on. The capacity to appreciate merits in a man apart from his caste does not exist in a Hindu. There is appreciation of virtue but only when the man is a fellow caste-man. The whole morality is as bad as tribal morality. My caste-man, right or wrong my caste-man, good or bad. It is not a case of standing by virtue and not standing by vice. It is a case of standing or not standing by the caste. Have not Hindus committed treason against their country in the interests of their caste I would not be surprised if some of you have grown weary listening to this tiresome tale of the sad effects which caste has produced. There is nothing new in it. I will therefore turn to the constructive side of the problem. What is your ideal society if you do not want caste is a question that is bound to be asked of you. If you ask me, my ideal would be a society based on Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. And why not. What objection can there be to Fraternity. I cannot imagine any. An ideal society should be mobile, should be full of channels for conveying a change taking place in one part to other parts. In an ideal society there should be many interests consciously communicated and shared. There should be varied and free points of contact with other modes of association. In other words there must be social endosmosis. This is fraternity, which is only another name for democracy. Democracy is not merely a form of Government. It is primarily a mode of associated living, of conjoint communicated experience. It is essentially an attitude of respect and reverence towards fellowmen. Any objection to Liberty. Few object to liberty in the sense of a right to free movement, in the sense of a right to life and limb. There is no objection to liberty in the sense of a right to property, tools and materials as being necessary for earning a living to keep the body in due state of health. Why not allow liberty to benefit by an effective and competent use of a person8217s powers. The supporters of caste who would allow liberty in the sense of a right to life, limb and property, would not readily consent to liberty in this sense, inasmuch as it involves liberty to choose one8217s profession. But to object to this kind of liberty is to perpetuate slavery. For slavery does not merely mean a legalized form of subjection. It means a state of society in which some men are forced to accept from other the purposes which control their conduct. This condition obtains even where there is no slavery in the legal sense. It is found where, as in the Caste System, some persons are compelled to carry on certain prescribed callings which are not of their choice. Any objection to equality. This has obviously been the most contentious part of the slogan of the French Revolution. The objections to equality may be sound and one may have to admit that all men are not equal. But what of that. Equality may be a fiction but nonetheless one must accept it as the governing principle. A. man8217s power is dependent upon (1) physical heredity, (2) social inheritance or endowment in the form of parental care, education, accumulation of scientific knowledge, everything which enables him to be more efficient than the savage, and finally, (3) on his own efforts. In all these three respects men are undoubtedly unequal. But the question is, shall we treat them as unequal because they are unequal. This is a question which the opponents of equality must answer. From the standpoint of the individualist it may be just to treat men unequally so far as their efforts are unequal. It may be desirable to give as much incentive as possible to the full development of every one8217s powers. But what would happen if men were treated unequally as they are, in But there is a set of reformers who hold out a different ideal. They go by the name of the Arya Samajists and their ideal of social organization is what is called Chaturvarnya or the division of society into four classes instead of the four thousand castes that we have in India. To make it more attractive and to disarm opposition the protagonists of Chaturvarnya take great care to point out that their Chaturvarnya is based not on birth but on guna (worth). At the outset, I must confess that notwithstanding the worth-basis of this Chaturvarnya, it is an ideal to which I cannot reconcile myself. In the first place, if under the Chaturvarnya of the Arya Samajists an individual is to take his place in the Hindu Society according to his worth. I do not understand why the Arya Samajists insist upon labelling men as Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra. A learned man would be honoured without his being labelled a Brahmin. A soldier would be respected without his being designated a Kshatriya. If European society honours its soldiers and its servants without giving them permanent labels, why should Hindu Society find it difficult to do so is a question, which Arya Samajists have not cared to consider. There is another objection to the continuance of these labels. All reform consists in a change in the notions, sentiment and mental attitudes of the people towards men and things. It is common experience that certain names become associated with certain notions and sentiments, which determine a person8217s attitude towards men and things. The names, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra, are names which are associated with a definite and fixed notion in the mind of every Hindu. That notion is that of a hierarchy based on birth. So long as these names continue, Hindus will continue to think of the Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra as hierarchical divisions of high and low, based on birth, and act accordingly. The Hindu must be made to unlearn all this. But how can this happen if the old labels remain and continue to recall to his mind old notions. If new notions are to be inculcated in the minds of people it is necessary to give them new names. To continue the old name is to make the reform futile. To allow this Chaturvarnya, based on worth to be designated by such stinking labels of Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra, indicative of social divisions based on birth, is a snare. To me this Chaturvarnya with its old labels is utterly repellent and my whole being rebels against it. But I do not wish to rest my objection to Chaturvarnya on mere grounds of sentiments. There are more solid grounds on which I rely for my opposition to it. A close examination of this ideal has convinced me that as a system of social organization, Chaturvarnya is impracticable, harmful and has turned out to be a miserable failure. From a practical point of view, the system of Chaturvarnya raises several difficulties which its protagonists do not seem to have taken into account. The principle underlying caste is fundamentally different from the principle underlying Varna. Not only are they fundamentally different but they are also fundamentally opposed. The former is based on worth. How are you going to compel people who have acquired a higher status based on birth without reference to their worth to vacate that status. How are you going to compel people to recognize the status due to a man in accordance with his worth, who is occupying a lower status based on his birth. For this you must first break up the caste System, in order to be able to establish the Varna system. How are you going to reduce the four thousand castes, based oil birth, to the four Varnas, based on worth. This is the first difficulty which the protagonists of the Chaturvarnya must grapple with. There is a second difficulty which the protagonists of Chaturvarnya must grapple with, if they wish to make the establishment of Chaturvarnya a success. Chaturvarnya pre-supposes that you can classify people into four definite classes. Is this possible. In this respect, the ideal of Chaturvarnya has, as you will see, a close affinity to the Platonic ideal. To Plato, men fell by nature into three classes. In some individuals, he believed mere appetites dominated. He assigned them to the labouring and trading classes. Others revealed to him that over and above appetites, they have a courageous disposition. He classed them as defenders in war and guardians of internal peace. Others showed a capacity to grasp the universal reason underlying things. He made them the law-givers of the people. The criticism to which Plato8217s Republic is subject, is also the criticism which must apply to the system of Chaturvarnya, in so far as it proceeds upon the possibility of an accurate classification of men into four distinct classes. The chief criticism against Plato is that his idea of lumping of individuals into a few sharply marked-off classes is a very superficial view of man and his powers. Plato had no perception of the uniqueness of every individual, of his incommensurability with others, of each individual forming a class of his own. He had no recognition of the infinite diversity of active tendencies and combination of tendencies of which an individual is capable. To him, there were types of faculties or powers in the individual constitution. All this is demonstrably wrong. Modem science has shown that lumping together of individuals into a few sharply marked-off classes is a superficial view of man not worthy of serious consideration. Consequently, the utilization of the qualities of individuals is incompatible with their stratification by classes, since the qualities of individuals are so variable. Chaturvarnya must fail for the very reason for which Plato8217s Republic must fail, namely that it is not possible to pigeon men into holes, according as he belongs to one class or the other. That it is impossible to accurately classify people into four definite classes is proved by the fact that the original four classes have now become four thousand castes. There is a third difficulty in the way of the establishment of the system of Chaturvarnya. How are you going to maintain the system of Chaturvarnya, supposing it was established. One important requirement for the successful working of Chaturvarnya is the maintenance of the penal system which could maintain it by its sanction. The system of Chaturvarnya must perpetually face the problem of the transgressor. Unless there is a penalty attached to the act of transgression, men will not keep to their respective classes. The whole system will break down, being contrary to human nature. Chaturvarnya cannot subsist by its own inherent goodness. It must be enforced by law. That, without penal sanction the ideal of Chaturvarnya cannot be realized, is proved by the story in the Ramayana of Rama killing Shambuka. Some people seem to blame Rama because he wantonly and without reason killed Shambuka. But to blame Rama for killing Shambuka is to misunderstand the whole situation. Ram Raj was a Raj based on Chaturvarnya. As a king, Rama was bound to maintain Chaturvarnya. It was his duty therefore to kill Shambuka, the Shudra, who had transgressed his class and wanted to be a Brahmin. This is the reason why Rama killed Shambuka. But this also shows that penal sanction is necessary for the maintenance of Chaturvarnya. Not only penal sanction is necessary, but penalty of death is necessary. That is why Rama did not inflict on Shambuka a lesser punishment. That is why Manu-Smriti prescribes such heavy sentences as cutting off the tongue or pouring of molten lead in the ears of the Shudra, who recites or hears the Veda. The supporters of Chaturvarnya must give an assurance that they could successfully classify men and they could induce modern society in the twentieth century to reforge the penal sanctions of Manu-Smriti. The protagonists of Chaturvarnya do not seem to have considered what is to happen to women in their system. Are they also to be divided into four classes, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra Or are they to be allowed to take the status of their husbands. If the status of the woman is to be the consequence of marriage what becomes of the underlying principle of Chaturvarnya, namely, that the status of a person should be based upon the worth of that person. If they are to be classified according to their worth is their classification to be nominal or real. If it is to be nominal then it is useless and then the protagonists of Chaturvarnya must admit that their system does not apply to women. If it is real, are the protagonists of Chaturvarnya prepared to follow the logical consequences of applying it to women. They must be prepared to have women priests and women soldiers. Hindu society has grown accustomed to women teachers and women barristers. It may grow accustomed to women brewers and women butchers. But he would be a bold person, who would say that it will allow women priests and women soldiers. But that will be the logical outcome of applying Chaturvarnya to women. Given these difficulties, I think no one except a congenital idiot could hope and believe in a successful regeneration of the Chaturvarnya. Assuming that Chaturvarnya is practicable, I contend that it is the most vicious system. That the Brahmins should cultivate knowledge, that the Kshatriya should bear arms, that the Vaishya. should trade and that the Shudra should serve sounds as though it was a system of division of labour. Whether the theory was intended to state that the Shudra need not or that whether it was intended to lay down that he must not, is an interesting question. The defenders of Chaturvarnya give it the first meaning. They say, why should the Shudra need trouble to acquire wealth, when the three Vamas are there to support him. Why need the Shudra bother to take to education, when there is the Brahmin to whom he can go when the occasion for reading or writing arises. Why need the Shudra worry to arm himself because there is the Kshatriya to protect him. The theory of Chaturvarnya, understood in this sense, may be said to look upon the Shudra as the ward and the three Vamas as his guardians. Thus interpreted, it is a simple, elevating and alluring theory. Assuming this to be the correct view of the underlying conception of Chaturvarnya, it seems to me that the system is neither fool-proof nor knave-proof. What is to happen, if the Brahmins, Vaishyas and Kshatriyas fail to pursue knowledge, to engage in economic enterprise and to be efficient soldiers which are their respective functions. Contrary-wise, suppose that they discharge their functions but flout their duty to the Shudra or to one another, what is to happen to the Shudra if the three classes refuse to support him on fair terms or combine to keep him down. Who is to safeguard the interests of the Shudra or for the matter of that of the Vaishya and Kshatriya when the person, who is trying to take advantage of his ignorance is the Brahmin Who is to defend the liberty of the Shudra and for the matter of that, of the Brahmin and the Vaishya when the person who is robbing him of it is the Kshatriya. Inter-dependence of one class on another class is inevitable. Even dependence of one class upon another may sometimes become allowable. But why make one person depend upon another in the matter of his vital needs. Education everyone must have. Means of defence everyone must have. These are the paramount requirements of every man for his self-preservation. How can the fact that his neighbour is educated and armed help a man who is uneducated and disarmed. The whole theory is absurd. These are the questions, which the defenders of Chaturvarnya do not seem to be troubled about. But they are very pertinent questions. Assuming their conception of Chaturvarnya that the relationship between the different classes is that of ward and guardian is the real conception underlying Chaturvarnya, it must be admitted that it makes no provision to safeguard the interests of the ward from the misdeeds of the guardian. Whether the relationship of guardian and ward was the real underlying conception, on which Chaturvarnya was based, there is no doubt that in practice the relation was that of master and servants. The three classes, Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas although not very happy in their mutual relationship managed to work by compromise. The Brahmin flattered the Kshatriya and both let the Vaishya live in order to be able to live upon him. But the three agreed to beat down the Shudra. He was not allowed to acquire wealth lest he should be independent of the three Varncus. He was prohibited from acquiring knowledge lest he should keep a steady vigil regarding his interests. He was prohibited from bearing arms lest he should have the means to rebel against their authority. That this is how the Shudras were treated by the Tryavarnikas is evidenced by the Laws of Manu. There is no code of laws more infamous regarding social rights than the Laws of Manu. Any instance from anywhere of social injustice must pale before it. Why have the mass of people tolerated the social evils to which they have been subjected There have been social revolutions in other countries of the world. Why have there not been social revolutions in India is a question which has incessantly troubled me. There is only one answer, which I can give and it is that the lower classes of Hindus have been completely disabled for direct action on account of this wretched system of Chaturvarnya. They could not bear arms and without arms they could not rebel. They were all ploughmen or rather condemned to be ploughmen and they never were allowed to convert their ploughshare into swords. They had no bayonets and therefore everyone who chose could and did sit upon them. On account of the Chaturvarnya, they could receive no education. They could not think out or know the way to their salvation. They were condemned to be lowly and not knowing the way of escape and not having the means of escape, they became reconciled to eternal servitude, which they accepted as their inescapable fate. It is true that even in Europe the strong has not shrunk from the exploitation, nay the spoliation of the weak. But in Europe, the strong have never contrived to make the weak helpless against exploitation so shamelessly as was the case in India among the Hindus. Social war has been raging between the strong and the weak far more violently in Europe than it has ever been in India. Yet, the weak in Europe has had in his freedom of military service his physical weapon, in suffering his political weapon and in education his moral weapon. These three weapons for emancipation were never withheld by the strong from the weak in Europe. All these weapons were, however, denied to the masses in India by Chaturvarnya. There cannot be a more degrading system of social organization than the Chaturvarnya. It is the system which deadens, paralyses and cripples the people from helpful activity. This is no exaggeration. History bears ample evidence. There is only one period in Indian history which is a period of freedom, greatness and glory. That is the period of the Mourya Empire. At all other times the country suffered from defeat and darkness. But the Mourya period was a period when Chaturvarnya was completely annihilated, when the Shudras, who constituted the mass of the people, came into their own and became the rulers of the country. The period of defeat and darkness is the period when Chaturvarnya flourished to the damnation of the greater part of the people of the country. Chaturvarnya is not new. It is as old as the Vedas. That is one of the reasons why we are asked by the Arya Samajists to consider its claims. Judging from the past as a system of social organization, it has been tried and it has failed. How many times have the Brahmins annihilated the seed of the Kshatriyas How many times have the Kshatriyas annihilated the Brahmins The Mahabharata and the Puranas are full of incidents of the strife between the Brahmins and the Kshatriyas. They even quarreled over such petty questions as to who should salute first, as to who should give way first, the Brahmins or the Kshatriyas, when the two met in the street. Not only was the Brahmin an eyesore to die Kshatriya and the Kshatriya an eyesore to the Brahmin, it seems that the Kshatriyas had become tyrannical and the masses, disarmed as they were under the system of Chaturvarnya, were praying Almighty God for relief from their tyranny. The Bhagwat tells us very definitely that Krishna had taken Avtar for one sacred purpose and that was to annihilate the Kshatriyas. With these instances of rivalry and enmity between the different Vurnas before us, I do not understand how any one can hold out Chaturvarnya as an ideal to be aimed at or as a pattern, on which the Hindu Society should be remodelled. I have dealt with those, who are without you and whose hostility to your ideal is quite open. There appear to be others, who are neither without you nor with you. I was hesitating whether I should deal with their point of view. But on further consideration I have come to the conclusion that I must and that for two reasons. Firstly, their attitude to the problem of caste is not merely an attitude of neutrality, but is an attitude of aimed neutrality. Secondly, they probably represent a considerable body of people. Of these, there is one set which finds nothing peculiar nor odious in the Caste System of the Hindus. Such Hindus cite the case of Muslims, Sikhs and Christians and find comfort in the fact that they too have castes amongst them. In considering this question you must a. t the outset bear in mind that nowhere is human society one single whole. It is always plural. In the world of action, the individual is one limit and society the other. Between them lie all sorts of associative arrangements of lesser and larger scope, families, friendship, co-operative associations, business combines, political parties, bands of thieves and robbers. These small groups are usually firmly welded together and are often as exclusive as castes. They have a narrow and intensive code, which is often anti-social. This is true of every society, in Europe as well as in Asia, The question to be asked in determining whether a given society is an ideal society is not whether there are groups in it, because groups exist in all societies. O. questions to be asked in determining what is an ideal society are. How numerous and varied are the interests which are consciously shared by the groups. How full and free is the interplay with other forms of associations. Are the forces that separate groups and classes more numerous than the forces that unite. What social significance is attached to this group life. Is its exclusiveness a matter of custom and convenience or is it a matter of religion. It is in the light of these questions that one must decide whether caste among Non-Hindus is the same as caste among Hindus. If we apply these considerations to castes among Mohammedans, Sikhs and Christians on the one hand and to castes among Hindus on the other, you will find that caste among Non-Hindus is fundamentally different from caste among Hindus. First, the ties, which consciously make the Hindus hold together, are non-existent, while among Non-Hindus there are many that hold them together. The strength of a society depends upon the presence of points of contact, possibilities of interaction between different groups which exist in it. These are what Carlyle calls 8221 organic filaments 8221 i. e. the elastic threads which help to bring the disintegrating elements together and to reunite them. There is no integrating farce among the Hindus to counteract the disintegration caused by caste. While among the Non-Hindus there are plenty of these organic filaments which bind them together. Again it must be borne in mind that although there are castes among Non-Hindus, as there are among Hindus, caste has not the same social significance for Non-Hindus as it has for Hindus. Ask Mohammedan or a Sikh, who he is He tells you that he is a Mohammedan or a Sikh as the case may be. He does not tell you his caste although he has one and you are satisfied with his answer. When he tells you that he is a Muslim, you do not proceed to ask him whether he is a Shiya or a Suni Sheikh or Saiyad Khatik or Pinjari. When he tells you he is a Sikh, you do not ask him whether he is Jat or Roda Mazbi or Ramdasi. But you are not satisfied, if a person tells you that he is a Hindu. You feel bound to inquire into his caste. Por quê. Because so essential is caste in the case of a Hindu that without knowing it you do not feel sure what sort of a being he is. That caste has not the same social significance among Non-Hindus as it has among Hindus is clear if you take into consideration the consequences which follow breach of caste. There may be castes among Sikhs and Mohammedans but the Sikhs and the Mohammedans will not outcast a Sikh or a Mohammedan if he broke his caste. Indeed, the very idea of excommunication is foreign to the Sikhs and the Mohammedans. But with the Hindus the case is entirely different. He is sure to be outcasted if he broke caste. This shows the difference in the social significance of caste to Hindus and Non-Hindus. This is the second point of difference. But there is also a third and a more important one. Caste among the non-Hindus has no religious consecration but among the Hindus most decidedly it has. Among the Non-Hindus, caste is only a practice, not a sacred institution. They did not originate it. With them it is only a survival. They do not regard caste as a religious dogma. Religion compels the Hindus to treat isolation and segregation of castes as a virtue. Religion does not compel the Non-Hindus to take the same attitude towards caste. If Hindus wish to break caste, their religion will come in their way. But it will not be so in the case of Non-Hindus. It is, therefore, a dangerous delusion to take comfort in the mere existence of caste among Non-Hindus, without caring to know what place caste occupies in their life and whether there are other 8221 organic filaments 8220, which subordinate the feeling of caste to the feeling of community. The sooner the Hindus are cured of this delusion the butter. The other set denies that caste presents any problem at all for the. Hindus to consider. Such Hindus seek comfort in the view that the Hindus have survived and take this as a proof of their fitness to survive. This point of view is well expressed by Prof. S. Radhakrishnan in his Hindu view of life. Referring to Hinduism he says, 8221 The civilization itself has not, been a short-lived one. its historic records date back for over four thousand years and even then it had reached a stage of civilization which has continued its unbroken, though at times slow and static, course until the present day. It has stood the stress and strain of more than four or five millenniums of spiritual thought and experience. Though peoples of different races and cultures have been pouring into India from the dawn of History, Hinduism has been able to maintain its supremacy and even the proselytising creeds backed by political power have not been able to coerce the large majority of Hindus to their views. The Hindu culture possesses some vitality which seems to be denied to some other more forceful current. It is no more necessary to dissect Hinduism than to open a tree to see whether the sap still runs.8221 The name of Prof. Radhakrishnan is big enough to invest with profundity whatever he says and impress the minds of his readers. But I must not hesitate to speak out my mind. For, I fear that his statement may become the basis of a vicious argument that the fact of survival is proof of fitness to survive. It seems to me that the question is. not whether a community lives or dies the question is on what plane does it live. There are different modes of survival. But all are not equally honourable. For an individual as well as for a society, there is a gulf between merely living and living worthily. To fight in a battle and to live in glory is one mode. To beat a retreat, to surrender and to live the life of a captive is. also a mode of survival. It is useless for a Hindu to take comfort in the fact that he and his people have survived. What he must consider is what is the quality of their survival. If he does that, I am sure he will cease to take pride in the mere fact of survival. A Hindu8217s life has been a life of continuous defeat and what appears to him to be life everlasting is not living everlastingly but is really a life which is perishing everlastingly. It is a mode of survival of which every right-minded Hindu, who is not afraid to own up the truth, will feel ashamed. There is no doubt in my opinion, that unless you change your social order you can achieve little by way of progress. You cannot mobilize the community either for defence or for offence. You cannot build anything on the foundations of caste. You cannot build up a nation, you cannot build up a morality. Anything that you will build on the foundations of caste will crack and will never be a whole. The only question that remains to be considered isHow to bring about the reform of the Hindu social order. How to abolish caste. This is a question of supreme importance. There is a view that in the refarm of caste, the first step to take, is to abolish sub-castes. This view is based upon the supposition that there is a greater similarity in manners and status between sub-caste than there is between castes. I think, this is an erroneous supposition. The Brahmins of Northem and Central India are socially of lower grade, as compared with the Brahmins of the Deccan and Southern India. The former are only cooks and water-carriers while the latter occupy a high social position. On the other hand, in Northern India, the Vaishyas and Kayasthas are intellectually and socially on a par with the Brahmins of the Deccan and Southern India. Again, in the matter of food there is no similarity between the Brahmins of the Deccan and Southern India, who are vegetarians and the Brahmins of Kashmir and Bengal who are non-vegetarians. On the other hand, the Brahmins of the - Deccan and Southern India have more in common so far as food is concerned with such non-Brahmins as the Gujaratis, Marwaris, Banias and Jains. There is no doubt that from the standpoint of making the transit from one caste to another easy, the fusion of the Kayasthas of Northern India and the other Non-Brahmins of Southern India with the Non-Brahmins of the Deccan and the Dravid country is more practicable than the fusion of the Brahmins of the South with the Brahmins of the North. But assuming that the fusion of sub-Castes is possible, what guarantee is there that the abolition of sub-Castes will necessarily lead to the abolition of Castes. On the contrary, it may happen that the process may stop with the abolition of sub-Castes. In that case, the abolition of sub-Castes will only help to strengthen the Castes and make them more powerful and therefore more mischievous. This remedy is therefore neither practicable nor effective and may easily prove to be a wrong remedy. Another plan of action for the abolition of Caste is to begin with inter-caste dinners. This also, in my opinion, is an inadequate remedy. There are many Castes which allow inter-dining. But it is a common experience that inter-dining has not succeeded in killing the spirit of Caste and the consciousness of Caste. I am convinced that the real remedy is inter-marriage. Fusion of blood can alone create the feeling of being kith and kin and unless this feeling of kinship, of being kindred, becomes paramount the separatist feelingthe feeling of being alienscreated by Caste will not vanish. Among the Hindus inter-marriage must necessarily be a factor of greater force in social life than it need be in the life of the non-Hindus. Where society is already well-knit by other ties, marriage is an ordinary incident of life. But where society cut asunder, marriage as a binding force becomes a matter of urgent necessity. The real remedy for breaking Caste is inter-marriage. Nothing else will serve as the solvent of Caste. Your Jat-Pat-Todak Mandal has adopted this line of attack. It is a direct and frontal attack, and I congratulate you upon a collect diagnosis and more upon your having shown the courage to tell the Hindus what is really wrong with them. Political tyranny is nothing compared to social tyranny and a reformer, who defies society, is a much more courageous man than a politician, who defies Government. You are right in holding that Caste will cease to be an operative farce only when inter-dining and inter-marriage have become matters of common course. You have located the source of the disease. But is your prescription the right prescription for the disease. Ask yourselves this question Why is it that a large majority of Hindus do not inter-dine and do not inter-marry. Why is it that your cause is not popular. There can be only one answer to this question and it is that inter-dining and inter-marriage are repugnant to the beliefs and dogmas which the Hindus regard as sacred. Caste is not a physical object like a wall of bricks or a line of barbed wire which prevents the Hindus from co-mingling and which has, therefore, to be pulled down. Caste is a notion, it is a state of the mind. The destruction of Caste does not therefore mean the destruction of a physical barrier. It means a notional change. Caste may be bad. Caste may lead to conduct so gross as to be called man8217s inhumanity to man. All the same, it must be recognized that the Hindus observe Caste not because they are inhuman or wrong headed. They observe Caste because they are deeply religious. People are not wrong in observing Caste. In my view, what is wrong is their religion, which has inculcated this notion of Caste. If this is correct, then obviously the enemy, you must grapple with, is not the people who observe Caste, but the Shastras which teach them this religion of Caste. Criticising and ridiculing people for not inter-dining or inter-marrying or occasionally holding inter-caste dinners and celebrating inter-caste marriages, is a futile method of achieving the desired end. The real remedy is to destroy the belief in the sanctity of the Shastras. How do you expect to succeed, if you allow the Shastras to continue to mould the beliefs and opinions of the people. Not to question the authority of the Shastras. to permit the people to believe in their sanctity and their sanctions and to blame them and to criticise them for their acts as being irrational and inhuman is a incongruous way of carrying on social reform. Reformers working for the removal of untouchability including Mahatma Gandhi, do not seem to realize that the acts of the people are merely the results of their beliefs inculcated upon their minds by the Shastras and that people will not change their conduct until they cease to believe in the sanctity of the Shastras on which their conduct is founded. No wonder that such efforts have not produced any results. You also seem to be erring in the same way as the reformers working in the cause of removing untouchability. To agitate for and to organise inter-caste dinners and inter-caste marriages is like forced feeding brought about by artificial means. Make every man and woman free from the thraldom of the Shastras. cleanse their minds of the pernicious notions founded on the Shastras, and he or she will inter-dine and inter-marry, without your telling him or her to do so. It is no use seeking refuge in quibbles. It is no use telling people that the Shastras do not say what they are believed to say, grammatically read or logically interpreted. What matters is how the Shastras have been understood by the people. You must take the stand that Buddha took. You must take the stand which Guru Nanak took. You must not only discard the Shastras, you must deny their authority, as did Buddha and Nanak. You must have courage to tell the Hindus, that what is wrong with them is their religion the religion which has produced in them this notion of the sacredness of Caste. Will you show that courage What are your chances of success. Social reforms fall into different species. There is a species of reform, which does not relate to the religious notion of people but is purely secular in character. There is also a species of reform, which relates to the religious notions of people. Of such a species of reform, there are two varieties. In one, the reform accords with the principles of the religion and merely invites people, who have departed from it, to revert to them and to follow them. The second is a reform which not only touches the religious principles but is diametrically opposed to those principles and invites people to depart from and to discard their authority and to act contrary to those principles. Caste is the natural outcome of certain religious beliefs which have the sanction of the Shastras, which are believed to contain the command of divinely inspired sages who were endowed with a supernatural wisdom and whose commands, therefore, cannot be disobeyed without committing sin. The destruction of Caste is a reform which falls under the third category. To ask people to give up Caste is to ask them to go contrary to their fundamental religious notions. It is obvious that the first and second species of reform are easy. But the third is a stupendous task, well nigh impossible. The Hindus hold to the sacredness of the social order. Caste has a divine basis. You must therefore destroy the sacredness and divinity with which Caste has become invested. In the last analysis, this means you must destroy the authority of the Shastras and the Vedas. I have emphasized this question of the ways and means of destroying Caste, because I think that knowing the proper ways and means is more important than knowing the ideal. If you do not know the real ways and means, all your shots are sure to be misfires. If my analysis is correct then your task is herculean. You alone can say whether you are capable of achieving it. Speaking for myself, I see the task to be well nigh impossible. Perhaps you would like to know why I think so. Out of the many reasons, which have led me to take this view, I will mention some, which I regard much important. One of these reasons is the attitude of hostility, which the Brahmins have shown towards this question. The Brahmins form the vanguard of the movement for political reform and in some cases also of economic reform. But they are not to be found even as camp followers in the army raised to break down the barricades of Caste. Is there any hope of the Brahmins ever taking up a lead in the future in this matter I say no. You may ask why. You may argue that there is no reason why Brahmins should continue to shun social reform. You may argue that the Brahmins know that the bane of Hindu Society is Caste and as an enlightened class could not be expected to be indifferent to its consequences. You may argue that there are secular Brahmins and priestly Brahmins and if the latter do not take up the cudgels on behalf of those who want to break Caste, the former will. All this of course sounds very plausible. But in all this it is forgotten that the break up of the Caste system is bound to affect adversely the Brahmin Caste. Having regard to this, is it reasonable to expect that the Brahmins will ever consent to lead a movement the ultimate result of which is to destroy the power and prestige of the Brahmin Caste. Is it reasonable to expect the secular Brahmins to take part in a movement directed against the priestly Brahmins. In my judgment, it is useless to make a distinction between the secular Brahmins and priestly Brahmins. Both are kith and kin. They are two arms of the same body and one bound to fight for the existence of the other. In this connection, I am reminded of some very pregnant remarks made by Prof. Dicey in his English Constitution. Speaking of the actual limitation on the legislative supremacy of Parliament, Dicey says. 8221 The actual exercise of authority by any sovereign whatever, and notably by Parliament, is bounded or controlled by two limitations. Of these the one is an external, and the other is an internal limitation. The external limit to the real power of a sovereign consists in the possibility or certainty that his subjects or a large number of them will disobey or resist his laws. The internal limit to the exercise of sovereignty arises from the nature of the sovereign power itself. Even a despot exercises his powers in accordance with his character, which is itself moulded by the circumstance under which he lives, including under that head the moral feelings of the time and the society to which he belongs. The Sultan could not, if he would, change the religion of the Mohammedan world, but even if he could do so, it is in the very highest degree improbable that the head of Mohammedanism should wish to overthrow the religion of Mohammed the internal check on the exercise of the Sultan8217s power is at least as strong as the external limitation. People sometimes ask the idle question, why the Pope does not introduce this or that reform The true answer is that a revolutionist is not the kind of man who becomes a Pope and that a man who becomes a Pope has no wish to be a revolutionist.8221 I think, these remarks apply equally to the Brahmins of India and one can say with equal truth that if a man who becomes a Pope has no wish to become a revolutionary, a man who is born a Brahmin has much less desire to become a revolutionary. Indeed, to expect a Brahmin to be a revolutionary in matters of social reform is as idle as to expect the British Parliament, as was said by Leslie Stephen, to pass an Act requiring all blue-eyed babies to be murdered. Some of you will say that it is a matter of small concern whether the Brahmins come forward to lead the movement against Caste or whether they do not. To take this view is in my judgment to ignore the part played by the intellectual class in the community. Whether you accept the theory of the great man as the maker of history or whether you do not, this much you will have to concede that in every country the intellectual class is the most influential class, if not the governing class. The intellectual class is the class which can foresee, it is the class which can advise and give lead. In no country does the mass of the people live the life of intelligent thought and action. It is largely imitative and follows the intellectual class. There is no exaggeration in saying that the entire destiny of a country depends upon its intellectual class. If the intellectual class is honest, independent and disinterested it can be trusted to take the initiative and give a proper lead when a crisis arises. It is true that intellect by itself is no virtue. It is only a means and the use of means depends upon the ends which an intellectual person pursues. An intellectual man can be a good man but he can easily be a rogue. Similarly an intellectual class may be a band of high-souled persons, ready to help, ready to emancipate erring humanity or it may easily be a gang of crooks or a body of advocates of a narrow clique from which it draws its support. You may think it a pity that the intellectual class in India is simply another name for the Brahmin caste. You may regret that the two are one. that the existence of the intellectual class should be bound with one single caste, that this intellectual class should share the interest and the aspirations of that Brahmin caste, which has regarded itself the custodian of the interest of that caste, rather than of the interests of the country. All this may be very regrettable. But the fact remains, that the Brahmins form the intellectual class of the Hindus. It is not only an intellectual class but it is a class which is held in great reverence by the rest of the Hindus. The Hindus are taught that the Brahmins are Bhudevas (Gods on earth) vernanam brahmnam guruh. The Hindus are taught that Brahmins alone can be their teachers. Manu says, 8220If it be asked how it should be with respect to points of the Dharma which have not been specially mentioned, the answer is that which Brahmins who are Shishthas propound shall doubtless have legal force.8221 : anamnateshu dharmehu katham syaditi chedbhveta yam shishta brahnam bruyuh sa dharmah syadashnkitah. When such an intellectual class, which holds the rest of the community in its grip, is opposed to the reform of Caste, the chances of success in a movement for the break-up of the Caste system appear to me very, very remote. The second reason, why I say the task is impossible, will be clear if you will bear in mind that the Caste system has two aspects. In one of its aspects, it divides men into separate communities. In its second aspect, it places these communities in a graded order one above the other in social status. Each caste takes its pride and its consolation in the fact that in the scale of castes it is above some other caste. As an outward mark of this gradation, there is also a gradation of social and religious rights technically spoken of an Ashta-dhikaras and Sanskaras. The higher the grade of a caste, the greater the number of these rights and the lower the grade, the lesser their number. Now this gradation, this scaling of castes, makes it impossible to organise a common front against the Caste System. If a caste claims the right to inter-dine and inter-marry with another caste placed above it, it is frozen, instantly it is told by mischief-mongers, and there are many Brahmins amongst such mischief-mongers, that it will have to concede inter-dining and inter-marriage with castes below it. All are slaves of the Caste System. But all the slaves are not equal in status. To excite the proletariat to bring about an economic revolution, Karl Marx told them. 8221 You have nothing to lose except your chains.8221 But the artful way in which the social and religious rights are distributed among the different castes whereby some have more and some have less, makes the slogan of Karl Marx quite useless to excite the Hindus against the Caste System. Castes form a graded system of sovereignties, high and low, which are jealous of their status and which know that if a general dissolution came, some of them stand to lose more of their prestige and power than others do. You cannot, therefore, have a general mobilization of the Hindus, to use a military expression, for an attack on the Caste System. Can you appeal to reason and ask the Hindus to discard Caste as being contrary to reason. That raises the question. Is a Hindu free to follow his reason Manu has laid down three sanctions to which every Hindu must conform in the matter of his behaviour vedah smritih sadacharah uvasy cha priyamatmanah Here there is no place for reason to play its part. A Hindu must follow either Veda, Smriti or Sadachar. He cannot follow anything else. In the first place how are the texts of the Vedas and Smritis to be interpreted whenever any doubt arises regarding their meaning. On this important question the view of Manu is quite definite. He says : yovamanyet te moole hetushrashraya dwizah sa sadhubhirbahishkaryo nashtiko vedandikah According to this rule, rationalism as a canon of interpreting the Vedas and Smritis, is absolutely condemned. It is regarded to be as wicked as atheism and the punishment provided for it is ex-communication. Thus, where a matter is covered by the Veda or the Smriti, a Hindu cannot resort to rational thinking. Even when there is a conflict between Vedas and Smritis on matters on which they have given a positive injunction, the solution is not left to reason. When there is a conflict between two Shrutis, both are to be regarded as of equal authority. Either of them may be followed. No attempt is to be made to find out which of the two accords with reason. This is made clear by Manu: shrutidwadham tu yatra syaptatra dharvarvudhau smritau 8220When there is a conflict between Shruti and Sinriti. the Shruti must prevail.8221 But here too, no attempt must be made to find out which of the two accords with reason. This is laid down by Manu in the following Shloka : ya vedabahyah snrityo yashch kashch kridrishtah i sarvasta nishphalah prety tamonishtha hi tah smritah ii Again, when there is a conflict between two Smritis, the Manu-Smriti must prevail, but no attempt is to be made to find out which of the two accords with reason. This is the ruling given by Brihaspati: vedayatvopanibandhritavat pramanyam hi manoah smritah manvrthaviparita tu ya smritih sa na shashyate It is, therefore, clear that in any matter on which the Shrutis and Smritis have given a positive direction, a Hindu is not free to use his reasoning faculty. The same rule is laid down in the Mahabharat : puranam manvo dharmah sango vedashchikitsitam agasidhani chatvari na hantavyani hetubhih He must abide by their directions. The Caste and Varna are matters, which are dealt with by the Vedas and the Smritis and consequently, appeal to reason can have no effect on a Hindu. So far as Caste and Varna are concerned, not only the Shastras do not permit the Hindu to use his reason in the decision of the question, but they have taken care to see that no occasion is left to examine in a rational way the foundations of his belief in Caste and Varna. It must be a source of silent amusement to many a Non-Hindu to find hundreds and thousands of Hindus breaking Caste on certain occasions, such as railway journey and foreign travel and yet endeavouring to maintain Caste for the rest of their lives. The explanation of this phenomenon discloses another fetter on the reasoning faculties of the Hindus. Man8217s life is generally habitual and unreflective. Reflective thought, in the sense of active, persistent and careful consideration of any belief or supposed form or knowledge in the light of the grounds that support it and further conclusions to which it tends, is quite rare and arises only in a situation which presents a dilemmaa Crisis-Railway journeys and foreign travels are really occasions of crisis in the life of a Hindu and it is natural to expect a Hindu to ask himself why he should maintain Caste at all, if he cannot maintain it at all times. But he does not. He breaks Caste at one step and proceeds to observe it at the next without raising any question. The reason for this astonishing conduct is to be found in the rule of the Shastras, which directs him to maintain Caste as far as possible and to undergo praynschitia when he cannot. By this theory of prayaschitta. the Shastras by following a spirit of compromise have given caste a perpetual lease of life and have smothered reflective thought which would have otherwise led to the destruction of the notion of Caste. There have been many who have worked in the cause of the abolition of Caste and Untouchability. Of those, who can be mentioned, Ramanuja, Kabir and others stand out prominently. Can you appeal to the acts of these reformers and exhort the Hindus to follow them. It is true that Manu has included Sadachar (sadachar) as one of the sanctions along with Shruti and Smriti. Indeed, Sadachar has been given a higher place than Shastras : yaddwacharyate yen dharmya vadharmamev va deshasyacharanam nityam charitram tadwikirtatam according to this, sadachar, whether, it is dharmya or adharmya in accordance with Shastras or contrary to Shastras, must be followed. But what is the meaning of Sadachar. If any one were to suppose that Sadachar means right or good acts i. e. acts of good and righteous men he would find himself greatly mistaken. Sadachar does not means good acts or acts of good men. It means ancient custom good or bad. The following verse makes this clear : yasmin deshe ya acharah parmpayakramagatah varnani kil sarvesham sa sadachar uchyate As though to warn people against the view that Sadachar means good acts or acts of good men and fearing that people might understand it that way and follow the acts of good men, the Smrities have commanded the Hindus in unmistakable terms not to follow even Gods in their good deeds, if they are contrary to Shruti, Smrili and Sadachar. This may sound to be most extraordinary, most perverse, but the. fact remains that na devacharitam charet is an injunction, issued to the Hindus by their Shastras. Reason and morality are the two most powerful weapons in the armoury of a Reformer. To deprive him of the use of these weapons is to disable him for action. How are you going to break up Caste, if people are not free to consider whether it accords with reason. How are you going to break up Caste if people are not free to consider whether it accords with morality. The wall built around Caste is impregnable and the material, of which it is built, contains none of the combustible stuff of reason and morality. Add to this the fact that inside this wall stands the army of Brahmins, who form the intellectual class, Brahmins who are the natural leaders of the Hindus, Brahmins who are there not as mere mercenary soldiers but as an army fighting for its homeland and you will get an idea why I think that breaking-up of Caste amongst the Hindus is well-nigh impossible. At any rate, it would take ages before a breach is made. But whether the doing of the deed takes time or whether it can be done quickly, you must not forget that if you wish to bring about amp breach in the system then you have got to apply the dynamite to the Vedas and the Shastras, which deny any part to reason, to Vedas and Shastras, which deny any part to morality. You must destroy the Religion of the Shrutis and the Smritis. Nothing else will avail. This is my considered view of the matter. Some may not understand what I mean by destruction of Religion some may find the idea revolting to them and some may find it revolutionary. Let me therefore explain my position. I do not know whether you draw a distinction between principles and rules. But I do. Not only I make a distinction but I say that this distinction is real and important. Rules are practical they are habitual ways of doing things according to prescription. But principles are intellectual they are useful methods of judging things. Rules seek to tell an agent just what course of action to pursue. Principles do not prescribe a specific course of action. Rules, like cooking recipes, do tell just what to do and how to do it. A prinsiple, such as that of justice, supplies a main head by reference to which he is to consider the bearings of his desires and purposes, it guides him in his thinking by suggesting to him the important consideration which he should bear in mind. This difference between rules and principles makes the acts done in pursuit of them different in quality and in content. Doing what is said to be, good by virtue of a rule and doing good in the light of a principle are two different things. The principle may be wrong but the act is conscious and responsible. The rule may be right but the act is mechanical. A religious act may not be a correct act but must at least be a responsible act. To permit of this responsibility, Religion must mainly be a matter of principles only. It cannot be a matter of rules. The moment it degenerates into rules it ceases to be Religion, as it kills responsibility which is the essence of a truly religious act. What is this Hindu Religion. Is it a set of principles or is it a code of rules. Now the Hindu Religion, as contained in the Vedas and the Smritis, is nothing but a mass of sacrificial, social, political and sanitary rules and regulations, all mixed up. What is called Religion by the Hindus is nothing but a multitude of commands and prohibitions. Religion, in the sense of spiritual principles, truly universal, applicable to all races, to all countries, to all times, is not to be found in them, and if it is, it does not form the governing part of a Hindu8217s life. That for a Hindu, Dharma means commands and prohibitions is clear from the way the word Dharma is used in Vedas and the Sinritis and understood by the commentators. The word Dharma as used in the Vedas in most cases means religious ordinances or rites. Even Jaimini in his Purva-Mimansa defines Dharma as 8220a desirable goal or result that is indicated by injunctive (Vedic) passages 8220. To put it in plain language, what the Hindus call Religion is really Law or at best legalized class-ethics. Frankly, I refuse to cull this code of ordinances, as Religion. The first evil of such a code of ordinances, misrepresented to the people as Religion, is that it tends to deprive moral life of freedom and spontaneity and to reduce it (for the conscientious at any rate) to a more or less anxious and servile conformity to externally imposed rules. Under it, there is no loyalty to ideals, there is only conformity to commands. But the worst evil of this code of ordinances is that the laws it contains must be the same yesterday, today and forever. They are iniquitous in that they are not the same for one class as for another. But this iniquity is made perpetual in that they are prescribed to be the same for all generations. The objectionable part of such a scheme is not that they are made by certain persons called Prophets or Law-givers. The objectionable part is that this code has been invested with the character of finality and fixity. Happiness notoriously varies with the conditions and circumstances of a person, as well as with the conditions of different people and epochs. That being the case, how can humanity endure this code of eternal laws, without being cramped and without being crippled. I have, therefore, no hesitation in saying that such a religion must be destroyed and I say, there is nothing irreligious in working for the destruction of such a religion. Indeed I hold that it is your bounden duty to tear the mask, to remove the misrepresentation that as caused by misnaming this Law as Religion. This is an essential step for you. Once you clear the minds of the people of this misconception and enable them to realize that what they are told as Religion is not Religion but that it is really Law, you will be in a position to urge for its amendment or abolition. So long as people look upon it as Religion they will not be ready for a change, because the idea of Religion is generally speaking not associated with the idea of change. But the idea of law is associated with the idea of change and when people come to know that what is called Religion is really Law, old and archaic, they will be ready for a change, for people know and accept that law can be changed. While I condemn a Religion of Rules, I must not be understood to hold the opinion that there is no necessity for a religion. On the contrary, I agree with Burke when he says that, 8221 True religion is the foundation of society, the basis on which all true Civil Government rests, and both their sanction.8221 Consequently, when I urge that these ancient rules of life be annulled, I am anxious that its place shall be taken by a Religion of Principles, which alone can lay claim to being a true Religion. Indeed, I am so convinced of the necessity of Religion that I feel I ought to tell you in outline what I regard as necessary items in this religious reform. The following in my opinion should be the cardinal items in this reform. ( 1 ) There should be one and only one standard book of Hindu Religion, acceptable to all Hindus and recognized by all Hindus. This of course means that all other books of Hindu religion such as Vedas, Shastras and Puranas, which are treated as sacred and authoritative, must by law cease to be so and the preaching of any doctrine, religious or social contained in these books should be penalized. (2) It should be better if priesthood among Hindus was abolished. But as this seems to be impossible, the priesthood must at least cease to be hereditary. Every person who professes to be a Hindu must be eligible for being a priest. It should be provided by law that no Hindu shall be entitled to be a priest unless he has passed an examination prescribed by the State and holds a sanad from the State permitting him to practise. (3) No ceremony performed by a priest who does not hold a sanad shall be deemed to be valid in law and it should be made penal for a person who has no sanad to officiate as a priest. (4) A priest should be the servant of the State and should be subject to the disciplinary action by the State in the matter of his morals, beliefs and worship, in addition to his being subject along with other citizens to the ordinary law of the land. (5) The number of priests should be limited by law according to the requirements of the State as is done in the case of the I. C.S. To some, this may sound radical. But to my mind there is nothing revolutionary in this. Every profession in India is regulated. Engineers must show proficiency, Doctor must show proficiency, Lawyers must show proficiency, before they are allowed to practise their professions. During the whole of their career, they must not only obey the law of the land, civil as well as criminal, but they must also obey the special code of morals prescribed by their respective professions. The priest8217s is the only profession where proficiency is not required. The profession of a Hindu priest is the only profession which is not subject to any code. Mentally a priest may be an idiot, physically a priest may be suffering from a foul disease, such as syphilis or gonorrheae, morally he may be a wreck. But he is fit to officiate at solemn ceremonies, to enter the sanctum sanctorum of a Hindu temple and worship the Hindu God. All this becomes possible among the Hindus because for a priest it is enough to be born in a priestly caste. The whole thing is abominable and is due to the fact that the priestly class among Hindus is subject neither to law nor to morality. It recognizes no duties. It knows only of rights and privileges. It is a pest which divinity seems to have let loose on the masses for their mental and moral degradation. The priestly class must be brought under control by some such legislation as I have outlined above. It will prevent it from doing mischief and from misguiding people. It will democratise it by throwing it open to every one. It will certainly help to kill the Brahminism and will also help to kill Caste, which is nothing but Brahminism incarnate. Brahminism is the poison which has spoiled Hinduism. You will succeed in saving Hinduism if you will kill Brahminism. There should be no opposition to this reform from any quarter. It should be welcomed even by the Arya Samajists, because this is merely an application of their own doctrine of guna-karma. Whether you do that or you do not, you must give a new doctrinal basis to your Religiona basis that will be in consonance with Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, in short, with Democracy. I am no authority on the subject. But I am told that for such religious principles as will be in consonance with Liberty, Equality and Fraternity it may not be necessary for you to borrow from foreign sources and that you could draw for such principles on the Upanishads. Whether you could do so without a complete remoulding, a considerable scraping and chipping off the ore they contain. is more than I can say. This means a complete change in the fundamental notions of life-it means a complete change in the values of life. It means a complete change in outlook and in attitude towards men and things. It means conversion but if you do not. like the word, I will say, it means new life. But a new life cannot enter a body that is dead. New life can center only in a new body. The old body must die before a new body can come into existence and a new life can enter into it. To put it simply: the old must cease to be operative before the new can begin to enliven and to pulsate. This is what I meant when I said you must discard the authority of the Shastras and destroy the religion of the Shastras. I have kept you too long. It is time I brought this address to a close. This would have been a convenient point for me to have stopped. But this would probably be my last address to a Hindu audience on a subject vitally concerning the Hindus. I would therefore like, before I close, to place before the Hindus, if they will allow me, some questions which I regard as vital and invite them seriously to consider the same. In the first place, the Hindus must consider whether it is sufficient to take the placid view of the anthropologist that there is nothing to be said about the beliefs, habits, morals and outlooks on life, which obtain among the different peoples of the world except that they often differ or whether it is not necessary to make an attempt to find out what kind of morality, beliefs, habits and outlook have worked best and have enabled those who possessed them to flourish, to go strong, to people the earth and to have dominion over it. As is observed by Prof. Carver, 8221 Morality and religion, as the organised expression of moral approval and disapproval, must be regarded as factors in the struggle for existence as truly as are weapons for offence and defence, teeth and claws, horns and hoofs, furs and feathers. The social group, community, tribe or nation, which develops an unworkable scheme of morality or within which those social acts which weaken it and unfit it for survival, habitually create the sentiment of approval, while those which would strengthen and enable it to be expanded habitually create the sentiment of disapproval, will eventually be eliminated. It is its habits of approval or disapproval (these are the results of religion and morality) that handicap it, as really as the possession of two wings on one side with none on. the other will handicap the colony of flies. It would be as futile in the one case as in the other to argue, that one system is just as good as another.8221 Morality and religion, therefore, are not mere matters of likes and dislikes. You may dislike exceedingly a scheme of morality, which, if universally practised within a nation, would make that nation the strongest nation on the face of the earth. Yet in spite of your dislike such a nation will become strong. You may like exceedingly a scheme of morality and an ideal of justice, which if universally practised within a nation, would make it enable to hold its own in the struggle with other nations. Yet in spite of your admiration this nation will eventually disappear. The Hindus must, therefore, examine their religion and then morality in terms of their survival value. Secondly, the Hindus must consider whether they should conserve the whole of their social heritage or select what is helpful and transmit to future generations only that much and no more. Prof, John Dewey. who was my teacher and to whom I owe so much, has said. 8221 Every society gets encumbered with what is trivial, with dead wood from the past, and with what is positively perverse8230 As a society becomes more enlightened, it realizes that it is responsible not to conserve and transmit, the whole of its existing achievements, but only such as make for a better future society.8221 Even Burke in spite of the vehemence with which he opposed the principle of change embodied in the French Revolution, was compelled to admit that 8221 a State without the means of some change is without the means of its conservation. Without such means it might even risk the loss of that part of the constitution which it wished the most religiously to preserve, 8221 What Burke said of a State applies equally to a society. Thirdly, the Hindus must consider whether they must not cease to worship the past as supplying its ideals. The beautiful effect of this worship of the past are best summed up by Prof. Dewey when he says. 8221 An individual can live only in the present. The present is not just something which comes after the past much less something produced by it. It is what life is in leaving the past behind it. The study of past products will not help us to understand the present. A knowledge of the past and its heritage is of great significance when it enters into the present, but not otherwise. And the mistake of making the-records and remains of the past the main material of education is that it tends to make the past a rival of the present and the present a more or less futile imitation of the past.8221 The principle, which makes little of the present act of living and growing, naturally looks upon the present as empty and upon the future as remote. Such a principle is inimical to progress and is an hindrance to a strong and a steady current of life. Fourthly, the Hindus must consider whether the time has not come for them to recogHillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi, murdered by Western-backed rebels on October 20, 2011, planned to create a gold-backed African currency to compete with the dollar and euro. (Photo: Jesse B. AwaltUS Navy ) Newly disclosed emails show that Libyas plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATOs intervention. T he New Years Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the who gets to ride with Hillary selection process set up by her staff, and how a cute Hillary photo fared on Facebook. But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails. admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U. S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafis gold and silver reserves threatening European currency. Hillarys Death Squads A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief archived here on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillarys unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source speaking in strict confidence Blumenthal reports to Hillary emphasis mine: Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections. (Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting). While the illegality of extra-judicial killings is easy to recognize (groups engaged in such are conventionally termed death squads), the sinister reality behind the foreign mercenaries reference might not be as immediately evident to most. While over the decades Gaddafi was known to make use of European and other international security and infrastructural contractors, there is no evidence to suggest that these were targeted by the Libyan rebels. There is, however, ample documentation by journalists, academics, and human rights groups demonstrating that black Libyan civilians and sub-Saharan contract workers, a population favored by Gaddafi in his pro-African Union policies, were targets of racial cleansing by rebels who saw black Libyans as tied closely with the regime.1 Black Libyans were commonly branded as foreign mercenaries by the rebel opposition for their perceived general loyalty to Gaddafi as a community and subjected to torture, executions, and their towns liberated by ethnic cleansing. This is demonstrated in the most well-documented example of Tawergha. an entire town of 30,000 black and dark-skinned Libyans which vanished by August 2011 after its takeover by NATO-backed NTC Misratan brigades. These attacks were well-known as late as 2012 and often filmed, as this report from The Telegraph confirms: After Muammar Gaddafi was killed, hundreds of migrant workers from neighboring states were imprisoned by fighters allied to the new interim authorities. They accuse the black Africans of having been mercenaries for the late ruler. Thousands of sub-Saharan Africans have been rounded up since Gaddafi fell in August. It appears that Clinton was getting personally briefed on the battlefield crimes of her beloved anti-Gaddafi fighters long before some of the worst of these genocidal crimes took place. Al-Qaeda and Western Special Forces Inside Libya The same intelligence email from Sydney Blumenthal also confirms what has become a well-known theme of Western supported insurgencies in the Middle East: the contradiction of special forces training militias that are simultaneously suspected of links to Al Qaeda. Blumenthal relates that an extremely sensitive source confirmed that British, French, and Egyptian special operations units were training Libyan militants along the Egyptian-Libyan border, as well as in Benghazi suburbs. While analysts have long speculated as to the when and where of Western ground troop presence in the Libyan War, this email serves as definitive proof that special forces were on the ground only within a month of the earliest protests which broke out in the middle to end of February 2011 in Benghazi. By March 27 of what was commonly assumed a simple popular uprising external special operatives were already overseeing the transfer of weapons and supplies to the rebels including a seemingly endless supply of AK47 assault rifles and ammunition. Yet only a few paragraphs after this admission, caution is voiced about the very militias these Western special forces were training because of concern that, radicalterrorist groups such as the Libyan Fighting Groups and Al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) are infiltrating the NLC and its military command. The Threat of Libyas Oil and Gold to French Interests Though the French-proposed U. N. Security Council Resolution 1973 claimed the no-fly zone implemented over Libya was to protect civilians, an April 2011 email archived here sent to Hillary with the subject line Frances client and Qaddafis gold tells of less noble ambitions. The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozys reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafis influence in what is considered Francophone Africa. Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafis gold and silver reserves, estimated at 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver, posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. In place of the noble sounding Responsibility to Protect (R2P) doctrine fed to the public, there is this confidential explanation of what was really driving the war emphasis mine: This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA). (Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than 7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozys decision to commit France to the attack on Libya .) Though this internal email aims to summarize the motivating factors driving Frances (and by implication NATOs) intervention in Libya, it is interesting to note that saving civilian lives is conspicuously absent from the briefing. Instead, the great fear reported is that Libya might lead North Africa into a high degree of economic independence with a new pan-African currency. French intelligence discovered a Libyan initiative to freely compete with European currency through a local alternative, and this had to be subverted through military aggression. The Ease of Floating Crude Propaganda Early in the Libyan conflict Secretary of State Clinton formally accused Gaddafi and his army of using mass rape as a tool of war. Though numerous international organizations, like Amnesty International, quickly debunked these claims, the charges were uncritically echoed by Western politicians and major media. It seemed no matter how bizarre the conspiracy theory, as long as it painted Gaddafi and his supporters as monsters, and so long as it served the cause of prolonged military action in Libya, it was deemed credible by network news. Two foremost examples are referenced in the latest batch of emails: the sensational claim that Gaddafi issued Viagra to his troops for mass rape, and the claim that bodies were staged by the Libyan government at NATO bombing sites to give the appearance of the Western coalition bombing civilians. In a late March 2011 email. Blumenthal confesses to Hillary that, I communicated more than a week ago on this storyQaddafi placing bodies to create PR stunts about supposed civilian casualties as a result of Allied bombingthough underlining it was a rumor. But now, as you know, Robert gates gives credence to it. (See story below.) Sources now say, again rumor (that is, this information comes from the rebel side and is unconfirmed independently by Western intelligence), that Qaddafi has adopted a rape policy and has even distributed Viagra to troops. The incident at the Tripoli press conference involving a woman claiming to be raped is likely to be part of a much larger outrage. Will seek further confirmation. Not only did Defense Secretary Robert Gates promote his bizarre staged bodies theory on CBS News Face The Nation, but the even stranger Viagra rape fiction made international headlines as U. S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice made a formal charge against Libya in front of the UN Security Council. What this new email confirms is that not only was the State Department aware of the spurious nature of what Blumenthal calls rumors originating solely with the rebels, but did nothing to stop false information from rising to top officials who then gave them credence. It appears, furthermore, that the Viagra mass rape hoax likely originated with Sidney Blumenthal himself. 1 The most comprehensive and well-documented study of the plight of black Libyans is contained in Slouching Towards Sirte: NATOs War on Libya and Africa (publ. 2012, Baraka Books) by Maximilian Forte. Professor Anthropology and Sociology at Concordia University in Montral, Qubec. This article was originally published at the Levant Report and has been used here with permission. Thanks Ganesh for the website link This filthy LIEING wasted piece of the female antomy needs to be in a Federal prison, RIGHT NOW This 8216Boar Hog8217 LIAR contines to go on CNN, MSNBC, NBC and lies in every interview. Who8217s holding up throwing her in jail for treason and fraud. Not Trey Gowdy for sure8230it is probably that fuking idiot Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) who ignores facts from witnesses, from her testimony to Congress and the thousand of e-mails She has broken at least a dozen or more Federal Laws. This LIAR btch needs to go down HARD and bounce her out of her lieing campaign for President Would love to see Trump take on Bernie Sanders. It would be a blood bath for Sanders I doubt it but there may be enough idiots to vote Trump Almost all Arabs in the middle east are hoping and praying Trump is elected. They know he is for peace and not a warmonger. He is not part of the US whoresestablishmentglobalists that have infiltrated our gov8217t. The middle east is stunned with wonder over the massive amount of killing of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of troops and civilians. For what They don8217t understand. They can8217t believe it can be only for money, gold and oil. They are all hoping and praying. Do not wish for Donald to be president: he will take us into war again because he is that stupid. He has no understanding of foreign policy, the monetary policy, or any thing else. This is a nightmare for the people of the US. And you are just a paid globalistestablishment troll. And not a very good one. TRUMP 2016. Your response is stupid it gives us Trumpeters a bad name. Please stick to the issues rather than personal attacks. Why would Arabs believe the notorious liar Trumpf wants peace or disfavors war The brutish carnival barker hates everyone except white people of the 1 class, only white men matter. The Donald flaunts his bankruptcies, corruption and violence from behind the wall of barricaded media and untouchable privilege. How does his rabid anti-Muslim rhetoric please Arab tastes Actual U. S. peacemakers struggle to be heard, sabotaged by the same warmongers that sponsor Trump and Clintons. Bernie Sanders could help, if anyone can. You obviously are still listening to MainStream Media monopoly. Get off the poison. Check reality. Even a little research on your part will reveal to you how MSM twists what he says. And why do Arabs believe Trump will bring peace I don8217t know except to say my friend is from Iraq8230lost his leg there8230and he told me that most of them believe that. And, well, they can see what Hillary had brought to the Middle East8230. WAR AND KILLING That could be the reason. Lol MSM IS drumpf and h, 247 coverage inescapable of both liars with TheDon8217T plastered on every screen ceaselessly. It8217s that LinkTv on constant default setting that brainwashes me relentlessly with old fogies like Chris Hedges, Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Danny Glover, etc. etc. teaching truth, justice, peace and l. o.v. e. instead of commercial consumer panic. Sorry you disagree, but neither msm-sponsored phony candidate is worth further comment. Boa sorte. You don8217t know that. I believe you are wrong about Trump. Time will tell. I think you will be eating your word. And many of the people you listed are very biased to liberal view points. To really get the big picture you have to widen listening. There8217s news reports all over the place contradicting you. And you are stupid enough to believe that anyone is going to fall for your little tale about 8220my friend who lost a leg says.8221 What are you, a third grader You are ridiculous. You need to first listen to Trump before you spout MainStream Media lies. Get the facts and come back I8217ve listened to Trump8217s words directly. He is an absolute complete fucking idiot with sociopathic tendencies. And you are a complete fucking idiot who wouldn8217t know facts if they smacked you in the face. Trump is now on his way to the biggest rout in a presidential campaign in history. And you will soon have to find something else to troll online about. Caroline Mc Gilloway You are STUPID, as all Sanders and Clinton supporters are. I accuse all their supporters of being unAmerican. also socialist communist ideology, never in USA. Wake up womanity You are really out there. It is very disturbing when someone holds delusions such as you do. You have no idea what Arabs in the Middle east are thinking. You can8217t just make up shit. Here8217s what they really think, and from a credible source, fool. time4140280donald-trump-muslims-middle-east Jebus, we can only hope. He is as dumb as a box of rocks. what gives me a chill is all the Americans who think that voting for Hillary is not idiotic. It8217s worse than idiotic, it8217s a vote for ongoing crimes against humanity against innocent people. i wish everyone would face up to it, US elections are bull. There8217s no real representative choice, unless someone who commits atrocities against the innocent represents you. i don8217t know, maybe it does. There were plenty Germans who supported Hitler, it8217s called patriotism (and lack of a critical perspective), it8217s human nature. i don8217t know what8217s in people8217s heads when they think someone who already has blood on her hands up to her armpits is somebody to vote for, i only know there are a lot of them out there and i don8217t like what that says about America as a country, not good. As for Trump, geez, he8217s a reality TV guy who is a competitive game player and high roller who moved from centrist Democrat to centrist Republican and ended up running successfully for the Republican nomination. This is the choice Americans can make. Who among you calls that a choice Between the two i would rather see Trump because he has persistently, despite unpopularity of the position, advocated keeping the US out of intervention in Syria, he said 8220Let the Russians handle it,8221 i agree with that. The Russians are trying to strengthen the government of Syria and to help it take back Syrian territory that has been taken by armed opposition forces. this is what governments do, they defend the territory of their country. The Russians are giving strong support for a government that has been subjected to abundant unrelenting foreign support for armed opposition. The US is trying to commit another regime change atrocity, the supporters of those in power in the US who want to do this, apparently a lot of Americans, think this is OK. Supporters of Hillary, people who trust her when she says her motives are to 8220protect the Syrian people.8221 Like in Libya, right. RIGHT. wake up. Por favor. People8217s lives depend on it, stop supporting these atrocities, please. Americans who support the leaders who advocate and perpetrate this are so scary, their sociopathic attitudes, excuse me, self righteous attitudes, about destroying the countries of people who were doing them no harm, were no threat to them, inflicting utter horror on them and with the attitude that anything the US does is not ever THAT wrong. Nothing to see here, move along people, turn your TV back on, go to the mall, don8217t worry about it. The Hillary faction AND MOST OF THE REPUBLICANS want to do this, they are in consensus about it, they have been doing this to the Syrians since 2011, arming opposition factions in Syria, funding them, who does that. It8217s the regime change policy, and regime change is just a euphemism for regime destruction, these people are left with no legitimate stable government, no police, no healthcare, no nothing, their safety is over. Can Americans imagine what it would be like to have no government and no police, just a bunch of armed factions fighting over who is going to rule over various pieces of territory The US weapons donated to the 8220rebels8221 they recruited are in the possession of so-called 8220ISIS,8221 the Saudis and Americans want nothing more than to eliminate the Syrian government, they know the so-called moderate are not clearly separated from 8220other rebels,8221 though because the rebels are factionalized, the US leaders claim that there are good ones and not as good ones. But they know very well that none of these factionalized rebel groups can rule that country, they don8217t care if the country has a government, just so they don8217t have the stable well armed and (i know it8217s hard to believe) widely popular Assad government. They are trying to isolate Iran and they are not taking kindly to Russia representing an alternative active power in the world, speaking out against destruction of Libya (have you seen Putin8217s speech on you tube titled 8216Do You Realize What You Have Done8217, on what has happened to Libya in the wake of the NATO destruction of that country) and on behalf of supporting the legitimate government of Syria as the first step to removing the 8220terrorists8221 (all armed anti-government forces) from Syria and surrounding areas. Did you know that Putin drew world attention to need to look closely at the evidence for who it was that committed sarin gas attacks on civilians in Syria The UN inspection team that went in there right after it happened came out and filed an official report saying that victims they interviewed said it was the 8216rebels8217 who caused the attack. Two MIT scientists, one a former weapons inspector, also in 2013, investigated the missiles fired and determined that they were not the kind the Syrian government used, and in any event, the areas the government held were too far to strike those targets. Did you ever see this on US media Did Obama ever mention it (i8217m being sarcastic). Since when is it OK to arm opposition groups and fund them and recruit and train them in a country who8217s government is not cooperating with your government, to incite violent overthrow of that government Is this the way all countries should conduct foreign policy. Trump is not on board with the demonization of Putin. He has not taken a position for or against Putin, he has taken a position for negotiating and deal making with Putin. You do that by keeping communication open. You don8217t keep communication open by demonizing the person you want to deal with. As for 8220the Russians8221 interfering with the US elections by whistle blowing about criminal and unethical behavior by Hillary and her associates, no evidence of this has been given. All there is to go on is 8220top intelligence officials say..8221 Haven8217t people understood yet that it doesn8217t matte what they say, they are not trustworthy They said there were WMD in Iraq, they said they have evidence. They lied. They were serving the political faction that wanted the war. There were many in CIA that opposed this because they knew it wasn8217t true, google it if you don8217t believe it, there was a big factional struggle in the CIA about this. The truth did not win. 8220What the president wants us to tell him8221 won. FBI director Comey says Clinton did various things like destroying subpoenaed evidence, treating classified information casually, breaking all kinds of rules, but, nothing that could be successfully prosecuted in a court of law. He didn8217t say she didn8217t do anything illegal. He said courts would not pursue it. But people think it follows from that that it must not be illegal. A lot of people cling to the myth that there is equality before the law in the US and that 8220the people8221 really do rule the country. If this didn8217t result in so many deaths and so much destruction in other people8217s countries, innocent people, then i8217d so go ahead, hang on to your little myths. but US patriotism is a treacherous thing, it8217s used to commit the worst of atrocities, harming millions, damaging the safety and security of the world in the name of supposedly making it safe. There didn8217t used to be American born Muslims committing mass shootings, until it became clear that Americans are not going to stop slaughtering masses of Muslims in other countries. This US militarist foreign policy on behalf of power interests is not going to ever make Americans safer. It8217s only going to keep getting worse. So as crude and unpolished and inexperienced at the BS and games of the US government as Trump is, his foreign policy is much less idiotic, smarter and more humane, which believe it or not, and i know most americans don8217t believe it, IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF AMERICANS. I realize most Americans don8217t know anything about US foreign policy, it takes a lot of time and work, people don8217t have that kind of time and energy. It makes me very sad to see the dominant factions in the US government shaping the way most people think so they can continue on with their militaristic profiteering policies around the world and their goal of violent global dominance. This is not just Hillary, it8217s way bigger than Hillary. It8217s Lindsay Graham, it8217s Marco Rubio, it8217s Ted Cruz, it8217s Jeb Bush, it8217s Tim Caine, it8217s John McCain, it8217s Mitt Romney, it8217s almost everyone you can name in the Republican and Democratic party. The competition between the two parties is smoke and mirrors, that8217s why despite the mudslinging elections time after time, policy does not change a whole lot. Obamacare, progress, right Wrong. Health care is getting more expensive than ever, the only good access to health care is still through Medicare and Medicaid, the insurance companies are still calling the shots and playing power games when they are not satisfied with their profit margin. 8220But they can8217t deny coverage for pre-existing conditions anymore8221 It was going this way anyway, the insurance companies were going to have to change on that with or without Obamacare. 8220but young people can be on their policies until 26.8221 That is the segment of the population that uses the health care system almost not at all. Any of the increased cost to insurance companies that results from covering pre-existing conditions, the insurance companies will just make up for by raising premiums, deductibles and copayments, there8217s no restriction on that. The public still has no long term health security, even those with good employee plans, if the militarist rulers of this country have their way, Americans will be pouring more trillions into military bases in more countries and ground forces here and there, as needed. There are no choices in US national elections, not representative choices. In a situation where someone like Donald Trump is the wiser choice from the standpoint of foreign policy and its effect on domestic spending, simply because he is if nothing else a relative outsider, relative to the ruling faction, that is a really sad commentary, but things have been sad for a very long time, and the number of people coming to feel that way, to become aware, is growing. This election will be another nail in the coffin of the legitimacy of the US political system. i don8217t know if you would be an idiot to vote for Hillary but would say you would be a moral idiot, voting for imposing a no fly zone on Syria so their government can8217t take their territory back, stabilize their country and begin to rebuild, it will be a vote for keeping Syria in violent unending chaos, violence which never would have started in the first place, if people like Hillary, and she8217s far from the only one, hadn8217t led the US into arming any opposition faction it could find and inciting them to overthrow the government, with promises to keep funding and paying them until they succeed at which time the US will insure they take over the government8212and this US does not even know who these people are, but they don8217t care. They know who Assad is, he does not cooperate with them, his country was stable, it provided better public health insurance than the US provides to its people, as did the destroyed Libyan and Iraqi governments. Mercenaries engendered by US policy, that8217s what you will be voting for. Moral idiocy. So are you like one of these people who thinks it is OK when Republicans do it, but not Democrats Why does it even matter Seriously Trump The guy who praised the Chinese for shooting protesters at Tienanmen Square The US is crammed full of clueless partisans of both parties and independents, because their minds are managed by the mass media which is a propaganda organ, this is one of Assange8217s biggest points of what wikileaks is trying to combat, the dominance of a media that just makes up stories to justify these wars, promoting them, and creating a situation where Americans live inside a disinformation bubble and are very very ignorant. When asked in an interview what he saw as the main enemy of the mission of wikileaks to bring truth to the public and to expose war crimes and the corruption of those in power which perpetrate them. He said 8220Ignorance.8221 that8217 was his first thought when he heard that question. And then he talked about the nature of this ignorance, which led him to identify the mass media as the greatest enemy to the truth wikileaks is endeavoring to bring to the public. The political parties are tools to distract the public8217s attention away from what the leaders of those parties are united in carrying out, violent and corrupt pursuit of global domination, the competition between the parties takes peoples attention away from what is happening before their eyes. it8217s a ploy, to give the idea that there is real choice in US elections. Like John Stewart said in a recent post-election interview, i think it was with John Pfilgar, (sp) on CBS, and i8217m paraphrasing here, 8220Trump didn8217t just repudiate the Democrats. Trump is not a Republican. He repudiated the Republicans.8221 This was not a pro-Trump interview by Stewart. It was a pro-truth interview. He had critical things to say about Trump, and as always, he had more important critical things to say about the media. Iraq war in 2003 was not authorised by the UN8230.it was yet another illegal war or intervention Bush DID IT. He didn8217t do it alone, 8220it8221 had bipartisan US support and global support, not by the people globally but by their governments. Famously, the French government refused to support the atrocity against Iraq. But anyone who doesn8217t see this as a US dominated action under US leadership and supported by other countries under US pressure, is stuck inside the same disinformation bubble we all (Americans) live under. The only hope for changing this normalization and sanitation of what are violent wars on civilians, destroying whole countries, is for increasing numbers of Americans to emerge from their ignorance. One of the most hopeful signs is the role of wikileaks in raising more and more questioning and doubt of the mass media in the US among Americans slowly realizing that the simplistic good guybad guy reports in the media are not informative, and leave people in ignorance, and being ignorant leaves one vulnerable to being manipulated. Under Bush8217s leadership, the government and country of Iraq was destroyed. You can learn about it if you want, or choose ignorance. It8217s not a matter of blaming Bush, and those Republicans and Democrats who make it about that are living in the bubble. The New York Times, CNN and other liberal media outlets all over the country, all the big ones, are at least as responsible as Bush and Cheney for Iraq, the US Congress of both parties is responsible, the plan of taking out the Iraq government was agreed on since its failure to defeat Iran, which the US had backed, overtly supporting the Iraq government and arming them with chemical weapons making materials which the US intended for them to use on Iran. This was under Reagan8212and supported by both parties. This is the US government. It8217s not one party or the other. People waste their time and energy in making it about one or the other. The guy you responded to who reminded people of what was done to Iraq wasn8217t trying to 8220blame Bush.8221 That person was trying to show the bigger picture. It8217s not just the Obama administration and prominently Hillary Clinton who are war criminals. The previous administration led and entrenched the US in the same much larger Mid East project they have going on, they are united both parties. i can8217t tell the difference. They are all war criminals, the so-called liberal media, they are extremely powerful, and Fox news is part of that too the same militarist narratives, the same silencing of critical perspective, the same demonizing of various foreign countries, they have been doing this my whole life when they were destroying governments all around the world, they feel entitled to do this, and they, through the media, exploit the people8217s trust and monger the people8217s fear of demonized enemies. The only hope to stop the river of blood and innocent victims and destruction is for Americans to lose trust in their lying brutal government which always claims humanitarian motives while creating one humanitarian catastrophe after another. They took over the Iraq government in 1953, destroying a progressive secular constitutional elected multiparty parliamentary government, Iran8217s first, and replacing it with a US run police state through an Iranian puppet autocrat hated by Iranians, this is horrible for one people to do to another, it was done for oil, it8217s not speculation. It8217s published information. Learn it. They have been using lies the whole time, they lie and to the extent the US public believes them, they can keep on doing it. If you learn how much they have lied, and how many lies and what kind of lies, then you will develop a critical perspective where you question everything. If enough Americans do this, the atrocities can begin to be stopped. Public opinion polls in the US were strongly against the 2003 Iraq war. Bush administration couldn8217t start the war without public support. Many Republicans supported it because they trusted their leader. Those against it were the Democrats and independents who did not trust Bush, all partisan stuff. So then, out marched Bill Clinton, to solemnly speak to the American people (his very large number of loyal followers), telling them the war was necessary, Americans were under threat, serious threat form WMD, very serious, our way of life, etc etc lying war propaganda. Then out marched widely respected and trusted moderate, Colin Powell, and off he went to the UN, holding up a fake vial of anthrax and saying 8220we need to stop this threat.8221 Voila, the polls changed, Bush rushed the UN inspectors out of Iraq on threat that they would be bombed and killed, though their inspection only had about 3 weeks left to be completed, but Bush knew, and the media knew, that the UN inspectors had almost finished a year long inspection and had found no evidence of WMD in Iraq8211so, had to stop that investigation FAST. Bush knew there were no WMD, it was a public opinion fear mongering ploy to get US domestic support for the war. This isn8217t just Bush who did this, it wasn8217t just Obama who destroyed Libya and is int he process of destroying Syria, with Russia stepping in and trying to stop this incredible rendering the Mid East into chaos and violence, creating power vacuums for ISIS and al Qaida to fill. Bush invited Al Qaida into Iraq where it wasn8217t previous able to be active, thanks to Saddam. US created power vacuum, faciliated growth the 8220Terror war,8221 one of their fear mongering propaganda ploys to keep Americnas unquestioning and ignorant. If Americans weren8217t so ignorant, thanks to not having a news media that does real investigatve journaliism and reporting, they would have considered the facts, that Iraq was a badly defeated country, since 1991 when the US demolished their civilian infrastructure, their military and disarmed them, and that ever since then, the US had imposed a no fly zone on them and bombed the north of their country periodically when the government tried to put down Kurdish rebellions, under Clinton, and the CIA freely ran all over Iraq, with Iraqi government forced permission. Whey would a country that is an urgent threat of being able to attack the US with WMD, allow this to be done to them for over a decade. if Americans could only THINK, and question, and be informed. But they are not informed and so in their ignorance, they are misled and manipulated in to supporting atrocities, imaging that that they are in self defense and for humanitarian purposes. People8217s minds don8217t work. That is the intention of the kind of disinformation media that has widespread control over what information the public is or is not exposed to. i want to add that there are factions within the US government, there is different over military policy. When Bush 1 had demolished the Iraq military in 1991, the big debate was whether to march into Baghdad and take over the country and put it in the hands of some puppet government, or to leave the Saddam government and use instead a policy of forcing a very poor quality of life on Iraqis (who had previously had a good quality of life by Arab standards under Saddam and is part of the reason they weren8217t trying to overthrow him, along with his very decisive violent responses to anti-government factions that took up arms against the government). The faction that wanted to not take over directly but instead undermine support for Saddam by preventing Iraq from rebuilding its civilian infrastructure, using the UN for this crime against humanity, forcing Iraqis to live without their destroyed sanitation system, babies and children persistently exposed to dysentary causing bacteria, with 200,000 child deaths, all under the myth bullshit that Iraq was a potential threat to anyone. It was a thoroughly defeated country, but this was not reported in the media because it was more useful for Americans to be ready to see Iraq as a threat, so the government wouldn8217t have to deal with annoying public opposition to future decisions to wage wars of aggression to destroy other people8217s governments. Since when did that become OK It8217s not ok and they use lies to have Americans think they never do it. And they8217ve been doing it throughout my life, going on 7 decades. Bush was a pawn He was someone the people would like, that8217s why he was prez Don8217t forget Bill Clinton, he bombed northern Iraq for 8 years, Iraq was defenseless, he and Bush enforced sanctions that prevented Iraq from rebuilding the US destroyed sanitation system (destroyed by the first Bush). this is a bipartisan thing and always has been, both parties promote and support these atrocities, the New York Times was in as responsible in 2003 for American peoples8217 willingness to support the unprovoked war of aggression against the people of Iraq, destroying their country, resulting in millions of refugees having to flee because their country was ruined and unsafe. It8217s not just the presidents in these war crimes, it8217s not any one party. It8217s liberals and conservatives, it8217s moderates, what Julian Assange has called 8220the extreme center8221 in the US, which is carrying this out, one country after another, while the media does an effective job of keeping Americans ignorant, fear mongered easily manipulated people, who then give the public support or acquiescence that is needed. It would be a blood bath for Trump. Trump can8217t even handle a debate. He was banned from some media. Trump shows he knows nothing on world issues, when he talks to reporters. Trump has no experience, no record, no agenda, no platform and bad morals. Bernie8217s record shows, he works for the people. That8217s funny. Trump is the only one speaking the truth. Listen to the liars if you want. But in the long run you are going to severely regret it if you get your way. Trump is a con man. He8217s so high in his ivory tower, he doesn8217t know what the issues are, let alone how to fix them. He will only work for the top rich. Bernie made great changes in Burlington as Mayor. People gave him a high approval rating. We would not regret getting him as President. Really 8220banned from some media outlets8221 Which ones and if so, why For speaking the truth and exposing these liars Bernie is a joke, and sold out to the very ppl that stole the nomination from him. Drunk people speak the truth, that doesn8217t make them qualified to be President. You can look up what he was banned from, it was around the time of the GOP debates. And it wasn8217t for speaking the truth, it was because he is a jerk. Bernie was a real candidate, with experience and integrity. For him to sell out, would mean he accepted a bribe. Where is proof of the bribe. There is none. He may have been threatened. We will see. He may be continuing to work for the people and against corruption, from within the system. His record shows, he is still working for the people. People are lucky to have a man like him in Congress. Some are not smart enough, to appreciate it. Bernie is supported by the Communist Party, and is a Communist. Trump is NOT a part of the Marxist ideology of political correctness. I suggest you take a course on political science, Communism is not dead, and it is a real threat to the US as always. Cuidado. The link I am presenting here is from the Communist site. DO NOT BELEIVE THE LIES PROMOTED ON THIS SITE. cpusa. orgarticlebernie-sanders-political-revolution Bernie is not a communist. He is a democratic-socialist like, the Scandinavian countries. Democratic-socialism is not Marxist. The Cold War is over and socialism has evolved. The most prosperous countries use social democracy concepts like, police. fire dept, universal healthcare, etc. If communists support Bernie, that does not make him a communist. They may prefer a real candidate, as opposed to the others who are corporate puppets or part of the elite, who are ruining our country. Most Bernie supporters are ordinary people. Don8217t fall for oligarchy propaganda that calls everyone, who does not support their corruption a communist. Their propaganda goes against Trump, too. They are painting him to have Russian ties, etc. Bernie is for capitalism. He is against the abuses of capitalism like, our founding father8217s who, made monopoly laws. He thinks big business needs to be regulated enough so, the weak are protected but, not too much so, people can have a business and get rich and enjoy their money. He doesn8217t hate the rich. He hates the weak getting trampled on. Here is an article on what kind of politician Bernie is. It says, Reps loved his economic work, even though, they were against him at first. m. huffpostusentry7510704 This is too much (years of political science study) for me to explain to you in a post, but there is no such thing as a Democratic Socialist, it is an oxy-moron term. Please look up the real meaning of Democracy, it is not what you think, and there is NO democracy in Socialism. Communists always change thier terms in order to fool the masses, and socialism is a communist term like progressive. The whole ideology of Communism is to fool the masses into thinking they need government to survive. The corportate elite that you speak of are also communist (Globalist). Communists have realized that free enterprize works, and they have used it to gain power so now they can create monopolies and control the masses. They have been doing it for over a 100 years through thier take over of the public schools, media, and even Hollywood. They know that whoever controls the information, controls the world. This is why they want to censor the internet, they are losing the information war through the new media (internet). The cold war may be over, but we can never stop fighting tyranny. There are always bad ppl that want to control others. I am not against everything Bernie stands for, but I do not believe he would stand his ground. Also, you must remember that many Republicans have sold out to the Globalists, and that is why the hate Trump so much. I am 51 years old, and have a good education, but America is not the same as it was 30-40 years ago. I think we have come a long way in some areas, but we have also lost much of our freedom because someone out there always thinks they know what is best for you. The Scandinavian countries show, social democracy works. Socialism is doing what is best for the masses and the masses can vote, to make it democratic. Socialism doesn8217t turn into communism. Socialism is not communism. The ideologies are theory. In real life there is corruption that can twist any ideology for bad. Global elitists can use any ideology to achieve their goals, if people don8217t stand up. Bernie stands up to oligarchy. That is what makes him great. Trump profits from the rigged system of the elite. I don8217t see him standing up to the system. His choice of VP supports the oligarchy. You should get informed before spreading propaganda. Socialism is not working in Scandinavia. Perhaps you should look up other sources besides the socialist sites you visit. Sounds like a very impartial and serious summary of events to me. full of layman speech and simple banal political outlooks. 8220qaddafi has nearly bottomless financial resources8221, referring to people with their first names without prior mention 8220jabril, jilal and others are impatient8221, simply lay adjectives for a philosopher: self-promoter, semi joke figure (Bernard Henri Levy), talking about sweeping rumors (which are false), and doing it with bad grammar: 8220Qaddafi may be dead, or maybe not8221. and then just wild speculations about what qaddafi plans to do with his gold, (which isn8217t itself a danger, as a strong currency first needs to have low inflation, which african countries could not achieve), and then proposed motives for france8217s intervention, which are only re-iterations of motives that have been thrown all around ever since USA invaded Iraq in 2003. Any guy on the street who has watched the news a bit can tell you the same motives for any military intervention by the western world: oil, influence, internal politics, show of military hardware. It8217s a memo from her close political confidant, directly to her. It8217s not written for the Congressional record or something. That doesn8217t mean it isn8217t serious. it could be from a crazy conspiracy theorist for all we know, because it has no real insight, just lay interpretations and unoriginal ideas for france8217s motives which have no touch with reality. You continue to illustrate my point. Sinan Ferit Tzer 8220Newly disclosed emails show that Libyas plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATOs intervention8221 you are incapable of understanding written word. this is as crazy man8217s ramblings about a motive for the air campaign, the letters do not reveal the motive. so if anybody thinks X is the motive for country Y doing something, that 8220reveals8221 the motive what a bunch of idiots you are. oh by the way your whacko web site has blocked me. i guess you idiots like to simmer up craziness among yourselves I should not disturb you. this is as crazy man8217s ramblings One could say the same thing about your own comment, which would seem clearly to be much more applicable. Exatamente. Ferit8217s desperate rambling and denial, was a little amusing at first, but now it8217s morphed into something just sad. It is true and Hillary is a 8220credible8221 candidate to USA prez from Dems. Apreciar. On the other hand, as if Obama is not as guilty as her. Just as W Bush is guilty of Iraq criminal aggressive war. Obama did nothing to bring Bush and his cohort to justice, because justice is not for USA prezes or State secs. Kissinger is a 8220honorable8221 man too. The Iraq war was a response to Iraq invading Kuwait. The Iraqi forces were driven out of Kuwait and away from the border with destruction of much of their materiel to insure that they would not re-commence the invasion. This part of the U. S. aggression had a specifically target valid purpose, was well executed, succeeded, and stopped once the goal had been achieved. A detente was reached and hostilities suspended based upon agreements with the government of Iraq. Those agreements were violated, there was credible intelligence of the sequestration of weapons, this intelligence believed by all Western powers (and Democrats, Hillary included). The removal of Saddam, perhaps justified, was predictably a mistake since there was no sufficiently powerful stable replacement any better than Saddam to fill the vacuum and the U. S. withdrew, abandoning military gains and letting the whole disaster go to hell 8211 like much of the rest of the Middle east. We also removed, by this action, a counterforce to Iran. They had kept one another entertained, so to speak. After trying to create a similar disaster in Egypt with only temporary success, we did it again in Libya and we8217re certainly not exactly guilt free in Syrian events. It is difficult not to see the results of the actions of Obama and the State Department as anything but calculated to sow mayhem throughout North Africa and the Middle East. Sure, USA could NEVER commit a crime, maximum a 8220justified mistake8221 USA had never invaded any state and always () punish invaders. USA rulers never lie, so when they told that Saddam had WMD they sure believed in it, and never mind other people who had known better and had told so BEFORE USA aggression. And if USA imperialism is supported by Europe imperialism it is somehow made it better. And sure, Hitler had NOT did something bad in purpose, otherwise he would be victorious, but as his deeds turned sour to him it means he had not planned what he did. It could be funny to read FM were it not about the millions of murdered by USA imperialism8217s crimes and even more hurt, robbed, uprooted and so on. A piece of news for FM 8211 the majority of the world population do NOT see USA Europe imperialism as benign but somehow stumbling 8211 they see it as criminal and aimed to their destruction. And this view is based on hundreds years of bitter experience. Everyone in the world knows what Americans have been always doing. People just don8217t say it out loud. There was not credible intelligence. Bushies edited the CIA statement, cutting the denial by Oak Ridge nuclear analysts that the 8220tubes8221 had WMD capability. The report was quickly and entirely suppressed, though the news did come out enough to activate millions of protesters. Decisions, even our own personal ones, are based not upon truth but upon what we believe. If you awaken at an early hour of the morning with the certainty you8217ve left the stove on, you get up and go downstairs to the kitchen. I have telephoned an old friend whom I mistakenly believed to be alive. The world powers acted upon the best and most reliable information they had. Even if conflicting information existed, and even if your husband said 8220go back to sleep. You wouldn8217t have left the stove on8221 you will still probably go to check it. A police officer recently shot someone who, when confronted, drew an extremely realistic pistol. He was not indicted because, under the circumstances and given what information he did have, he made a reasonable decision. Just as an illustration 8211 there are 8220facts8221 about the Iraq WMDs, including the finding of the manufacturing facility and more recent discoveries of secreted weapons, but that is 8220received truth8221 and may all be lies. Remember: The Democrat Senate voted in Obamacare 8211 based upon 8220truths8221 that Gruber later revealed to be lies. We are now suffering from the results. Illogical and irrelevant: Fact is, the truth with absolutely the most accurately informed data on Earth was officially provided and deliberately buried. 8220Yes, honey, I checked the stove and it was NOT on fire.8221 Neocons and their anti-altruistic greed and violence are doomed, so please forget that nightmare dogma. As for the requisite swipe at Obamacare, universal, single-payer healthcare is the most proven system to deal with evolving medical concerns. Felicidades. But you 8220checked it and it was not on fire.8221 You checked it. Why to determine that it was not on fire. Saddam would not let the inspectors in to check that he was not violating the terms of the ceasefire. Even Hillary Clinton believed Saddam had WMDs. Spoken publicly in a broadcast speech. Reported in mass media. Or was that just another lie motivated by her 8220anti-altruistic greed and violence8221 Of course it was a lie, a monstrous fraud. Weapons inspectors found zero evidence of nukes in Iraq. The Bush-Cheney Crusaders kicked out the authoritative expert Hans Blix immediately before murdering the populace with a heinous bombardment reminiscent of Dresden. Did you read the definitive statement (deleted by cherry-picking goons) in which the world8217s primary sources on nuclear research declared the so-called tubes were incapable of such armament The 911 Commission had it. Well, at least pretend to care about factual reality and look it up for yourself. That google thingy miraculously finds all sorts of data, if a search contains more than half-wit nonsense. I had a Q clearance for a massive nuclear project and have no patience for disinformation and warmonger hysteria. You do not want to know the truth, so far be it from me to indulge your delusions. Boa sorte. You, being in supporter of the left and its failed administration clearly outlines your propensity to embellish information. Its a prerequisite for being a party member of the left. Their fraudulent elections are one way they win political positions. Support from a completely gullible and dillusional public, spoon fed the feces regurgitated from a gaping hole in the front of their heads, is the other. Hillary is a perfect example of the first way and you fall in to the second. Good Luck But the Right doesn8217t do fraudulent elections8230.uh huh You are right about single-payer healthcare, but Obama care is NOT such, not even near. And not only neocons are to blame for USA imperialism 8211 Obama and Killary are not less guilty, for ex. Of course, FM trying to whitewash aggression against Iraq is pathetic, but no one could do it better, because he tries to defend the indefensible Agreed. No relief in sight (without a Bernie Sanders miracle revolution) for the criminally corrupt healthcare industrialists that kill, cripple and bankrupt more citizens than other developed nations have in decades. Tragic and part of the grander MIC. Clintonian warmongering may be greater than Obama8217s, but the old Establishment remains a neoliberal conservative gang unaffectionately dubbed neocon for the rare blend of oblivious arrogance. That Ayn Rand voodoo economics keeps people too poor and uninformed to respond. Excuse me for going off point, disappointed in the BernieBlackout setback that darkens prospects for change. You are clearly delusional in regards to Obamacare. When half of obamacare co-ops have closed their doors, its not exactly a sign of its success. Cheers Before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein was cojoled by the US Ambassador into thinking that Washington would treat that incursion at arms length. What ensued was just the opposite, the whole media propaganda machine was set into motion, including the humidicrib story and babies being thrown to the floor, a total fabrication, but given the full treatment by the prestitute media. This gave the opening to US imperialism for the whole string of wars of aggression in the Middle East. Much as 911 used for the world-wide war on terror, a PR stroke of genius Why would the notoriously liberal media support any action initiated by George Bush Indeed, why did Hillary support the WMG intelligence in a speech, saying she was certain of their existence 8220the notoriously liberal media8221 is a misname. The proper name is 8220the wholly imperialist media8221. USA imperialism is bipartisan, and both imperialist parties are turning the world into hell. Who was a prez 8211 Dem or Rep in every case of imperialist crime is not important at all. NPR reported the yellow cake memo was fake, then stood by and commentators said absolutely nothing about it following GWBush8217s State of the Union where he used that memo as evidence to go to war with Iraq. I kept waiting for them to say, wait what. Nunca aconteceu. Not in the 8220analysis8221 afterwards, or any other time. Liberal media, my ass. gtSaddam Hussein was cojoled by the US Ambassador into thinking that Washington would treat that incursion at arms length. Tariq aziz himself pointed out that this wasnt true. With no attempt to beatify Gaddafi, he might well have stayed alive had he put the nation8217s gold and silver in the hands of his own people instead of some repository begging to be looted. That fact is, no nation today is a friend of the people in monetary matters. A return to honest money is as simple as making the soi called 8220security strip8221 in money out of gold, or silver - that would offer them some security That8217s what he was trying to do with the gold dinar, if you actually read the article you would know this. I am resisting the urge to call you stupid, and am patting myself on the back for not doing it. Who is going to hang them when everybody is bought and paid for Just like every other interventions, we all know the true motives. I remember the day Gadaffi was killed8230Hillary said 8211 8220We came, we saw, he died.8221 What an evil witch. People need to wake up before all this starts over again in Saudi Arabia and Iran Am I missing something about this statement here from the article above. 8216Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafis gold and silver reserves, estimated at 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver, posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency.8217 The euro banknotes and coins were introduced in France on 1 January 2002, after a transitional period of three years when the euro was the official currency but only existed as 8216book money8217. So how is this statement from the article above correct or true Start Here 8211 Sorry, wouldn8217t let me link. Please search for 8221 CFA Franc8221. It8217s a currency backed by the French treasury theoretically exchangeable for Euros at a fixed rate of 1001. There is a peaceful transition going on through many different groups. If you want to become part of it, join. After you watch a video, follow your excitement. youtubechannelUCH9q10wsJSGcIgCaymVIgpg Also, youtubewatchvqhOwucw-GRg You people on hear talk about throwing Hilary Obama and other politicians. If you don8217t throw in the jail the people who give them their marching orders it will not matter. News flash the America people aren8217t giving those marching orders. The bankers corporations and businesses people are giving the orders. I think the story of gold currency is real Joke, we can add it to Viagra mass rape8230.etc. France, westerns, Nato and others has found Libyans in condition of exasperation and indignation from the chaos and the destroying of the army and the country8217s administration and the absurd silly ideas that he imposed on them. It8217s not important what the western think in, the very important factor is what the Libyans was need and feel. Without this factor, nobody. westerns or others can do nothing. Funny how the diplomatic cables, then, show what Mr. Hoff says they show, as opposed to supporting your view that the expressed concerns about the people of Libya was anything more than a transparent pretext. So the 64 question8230 Where did the GOLD amp SILVER GO The Clinton foundation maybe IMF gold hoard was reported a few years ago 3rd largest of all countries behind USA and Germany. It is suspected that the USA doesn8217t have what they report and refuse any audit, Germany can8217t get it8217s own gold back (because it too is gone). So where did all that gold stolen from all those 8216regime change8217 countries go Hmmmmm Most IMFUN employees pay NO TAX but Leguard keeps crying about raising your taxes. Wiki the UN, the IMF and World Bank are UN agencies of countless agencies, commissions, 8216peace keeping8217 forces (really), and organizations that your taxes are paying for. The UN produces nothing and generates no revenues, the UN is a gigantic parasite Trojan horse globalist8217s world regulatory tool destroying the sovereignty of countries and freedom of citizens. People need to demand dissolution of the UN, keep the hell out of our country and restitution of it8217s assets starting with the IMF gold hoard. and the UN8217s hundreds of thousands of 8216world 8216 pensions. IMF gold hoard was reported a few years ago 3rd largest of all countries behind USA and Germany. It is suspected that the USA doesn8217t have what they report and refuse any audit, Germany can8217t get it8217s own gold back (because it too is gone). So where did all that gold stolen from all those 8216regime change8217 countries go Hmmmmm Most IMFUN employees pay NO TAX but Leguard keeps crying about raising your taxes. Wiki the UN, the IMF and World Bank are UN agencies of countless agencies, commissions, 8216peace keeping8217 forces (really), and organizations that your taxes are paying for. The UN produces nothing and generates no revenues, the UN is a gigantic parasite Trojan horse globalist8217s world regulatory tool destroying the sovereignty of countries and freedom of citizens. People need to demand dissolution of the UN, kick them the hell out of our country and restitution of it8217s assets starting with the IMF gold hoard. and the UN8217s hundreds of thousands of 8216world 8216 pensions. Criminal to the degree of Nazism. They should all hang at the end of a rope for crimes against humanity So, once again, H. Clinton puts her stamp of approval on a process to eliminate Gaddafi, something she could spin and deny later to the unwashed US sheep, to help foreign interests opposed to the real interests of US citizens. But they do give her donations to her foundation, probably. Normally, assassinating Gaddafi would be cheered by most people in the US but we know she wasn8217t bright enough nor brave enough to come up with this idea on her own. Her international handlers, though, do seem to have her dialed in. No wonder she doesn8217t bother to try and cover her tracks well enough, the opposition is guiding her and she knows it. The gods are dealing with this8212by visiting upon Europe and the USA their divine punishment. This is the meaning of the Muslim Invasion and Conquest of Europe and the Wetback Reconquista and the Muslim Invasion of the USA8212brought about by the Hubris and Ate of the very people that destroyed Libya. Lady Nemesis usually has the last word. In motre secular terms, 8216Blowback is a b8212h.8217 OK, Now, where does the Clinton foundation fit into all this Goldman Sachs: Making Money by Stealing It By Stephen Lendman Global Research, March 17, 2012 sjlendman. blogspot. ca 17 March 2012 Money power in private hands and democracy cant co-exist. Wall Street crooks transformed America into an unprecedented money making racket. Goldman symbolizes master of the universe of financial manipulation (Reuters April 16, 2011) Its been involved in nearly all financial scandals since the 19th century. It makes money the old-fashioned way, through market manipulation, the scamming of investors, bribing political Washington, having its executives in top administration posts, and getting open-ended low or no interest rate bailouts when needed. Its business model and culture assure billions of bonus dollars for company officials, complicit traders, and others on the take. Compared to Goldman, Bernie Madoff was small-time. Former bank regulator expert on white-collar crime, public finance, economics, and related law, Bill Blackexplained Goldman shenanigans pertaining to earlier SEC charges this way: Press Contact: Kelsey Davenport, Research Analyst (202) 463-8270 x102 Updated: February 2014 On December 19, 2003, long-time Libyan President Moammar Gaddafi stunned much of the world by renouncing Tripolis weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs and welcoming international inspectors to verify that Tripoli would follow through on its commitment. Following Gaddafis announcement, inspectors from the United States, United Kingdom, and international organizations worked to dismantle Libyas chemical and nuclear weapons programs, as well as its longest-range ballistic missiles. Washington also took steps toward normalizing its bilateral relations with Tripoli, which had essentially been cut off in 1981. Libyas decision has since been characterized as a model for other states suspected of developing WMD in noncompliance with their international obligations to follow. Assistant Secretary of State for Arms Control Stephen Rademaker stated May 2, 2005 during the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) Review Conference that Libyas choice demonstrates that, in a world of strong nonproliferation norms, it is never too late to make the decision to become a fully compliant NPT state, noting that Tripolis decision has been amply rewarded. Tripolis disarmament was also a success story for the U. S. intelligence community, which uncovered and halted some of the assistance Libya was being provided by the nuclear smuggling network led by Pakistani nuclear official Abdul Qadeer Khan. At that time, the U. S. intelligence community was being harshly criticized for its failures regarding Iraqs suspected WMD programs. The factors that induced Libya to give up its weapons programs are debatable. Many Bush administration officials have emphasized the U. S.-led 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as the October 2003 interdiction of a ship containing nuclear-related components destined for Libya, as key factors in Tripolis decision. But outside experts argue that years of sanctions and diplomatic efforts were more important. they wanted him gone Just another of many examples of wars being run, at the very top, by the private central banks. Look at every country that threatens our worthless dollar, they get invaded quickly. At least she cares about women Supposidly this is the web cach of the actual email before it was pulled. I found this story here trying to verify it, the only other source I8217ve found so far is this: anonhq46716-2 So France was worried about the gold based currency a 3rd world country leader was maybe thinking of introducing and started an air campaign and toppled its leader because of it this is the real conspiracy theory, not the campaign itself, as the article claims. The reasons for the campaign at the time were plain and simple, Qaddafi8217s offensive on the civilians, especially at Benghazi which he was bombing and moving his armed columns into when the air campaign began. This was shown on CNN. And what is the source for this supposed email from somebody to Hillary about the gold issue There8217s no reference given. Who wrote the email, that8217s not even clear. And he talks about 8220Hillary8217s death squads8221 but the only relevance to a death squad in what follows is that the rebels killed captured foreign mercenaries. you can see that this email was written in a non-serious manner, by an unknown person, and those allegations are just his interpretation. web. archive. org 8230DOC0C05779612C05779612.pdf quel surprise. an internet article long on speculation with a tiny morsel of fact. We8217ve missed so many opportunities in this country to do the right thing. One more symptom of the elitist sickness is having this over inflated sense of entitlement that says its okay to wreck peoples lives for profit. Nevermind what kind it is money, power, favor, etc. I can8217t help but think if Gore had been elected we might be world leaders in climate change right now instead of deservedly being hated for once again destabilizing the ME. Looks like we8217re poised to coronate a U. S. queen who is going to continue to do more of the same. She rightly belongs in big house, not the White House. America thrives in the indulgence of the rest of the world, they know it is now or never on the other hand, it will take at least two more generations to fully understand how America operates and manipulates the world to their favor, by then ALL the atrocities will be a thing of the distant past and wont be remembered. Americas new generations will feel fully entitled to the pillage done by their predecessors, claiming there is no evidence of any wrong doings as the government destroys any evidence to avoid the past being brought upon them, it is up to you American and non-American to tell your kids what is going on, one day they will be able to fully take care of this mess, and change the world. Syed Arbab Ahmed USA, NATO, UK, Europe etc repeated the Afghanistan chapter with Iraq, Syria amp Libya Liberal, conservative, far left, far right. who cares they are all a bloody bunch of murderers. Hillary, Bushes, Obama, Bill yes and Reagan. The whole political system answer to big money. That8217s who put them there and big money is insatiable can never be filled hence war. In ashamed to be an American. Alto of ppl will hide their conscience about us. I won8217t we suck. As for The Donald he said in 2003 that everybody has a price so im thinking8230 He will sell us out too. This really pisses me off to know that our own media can8217t be trusted. You are our 5th estate and responsible for keeping the government honest. Major FAIL. What you buy, everything hook, line and sinker I agree that if this is true, Hillary is one the docket. Ghadiffi (aka, that socialist) was well revered in his country, but since he wouldn8217t conform to your puppet systems of leaders, therefore requiring him to die, and that the West used to control the Middle East and Africa (aka, Muslims). Only because of their natural resources. I agree that Hillary should hang for this BS. You take the poorest continent and use it for your own gain I thought were done with that feudal shit. Plus that worked out so well with our Iraqi neighbors um, who did they give their oil contract to: China. We spent several trillion to acquire their oil because of our dependence on foreign oil, we have created a national security nightmare we are forced to keep up face for regimes we would not tolerate in other circumstances aka the Saudis. Obviously that didn8217t turn out in our favor. Proving once again that you can8217t gain anything from invading other people for your own benefit. If that is the case, why haven8217t we invaded Saudi Arabia for our oil: I8217ll tell you why the primary family is ruled by a bunch of religious assholes, who further a command of religious intolerance that we would never put up with they also create terrorists with their religious concepts. If we didn8217t need their oil and we can afford to piss them off, lest we be with out the one thing that keeps this economy running. Both GWB and his dad sucked up to the royal family there how did you like those 4-5gallon oil prices Apparently you can8217t control them, even if you suck talking to your own best friends (aka as the Saudis). What is going to happen if they cut us off I8217ll tell you You are a fool if you still think our meddling in the middle east is to get their oil Wake up Get off MSM The ultimate goal is global control. Fnck oil8230they don8217t need it. Hillary Clinton is a horrible witch globalist criminal and she should be in jail. How long did it take for General Petraes to be prosecuted Not long at all. And Hillary8217s crimes go way way beyond anything he did. Gimme a break Gunnar Forsgren (lt - in photo) This fundamental Youtube clip of a RT news aired back in 2011 convinced me back then. It all made sense at the time: youtubewatchvGuqZfaj34nc Hillary alleged email confirming strengthens this further. Saddam Hussein wanted to switch from dollar to oil trade in Euro. See what happened to him. 8230.the New World Order corruption destroys completely8230and the NWO8217s infiltration of the US Federal Government is alarming 8211 no wonder Obama never filled the Inspector General Positions at myriad Departments and Agencies, and targeted good American 8220Whistle Blowers82218230.and instructed an Attorney General to weighs prosecutorial discretion with exceptional political bias8230 8230NWO8217s Agents and Useful Idiots don8217t realize the horror that will be unleashed as they foment a global crisis8230 No worries mate. Here can you buy 8220Cialis or Viagra, Levitra8221 name at a decent price Please check out that site I recommended8230( lialilarabdi. blogspot ). Use this promo code discount ( rw-5378 ). Espero que ajude. You completely ignore the fact that Amnesty International and other human rights organizations documented all kinds of other atrocities against citizens by Gaddafi8217s troops and that these findings were sent to the International Criminal Court long before NATO decided to go in. The email you source looks quite phony. No one talks like that in emails, particularly government officials. Oh, and whoops, Libyan factions still control all the oil. France has no hand in there. You are playing on people8217s ignorance about what was going on for years before the war and how much Gaddafi was hated in Libya. The email is authentic, and the claim that the Libya intervention was intended as a humanitarian effort to help civilians is false on its face. More on that here: I have read many comments supporting both side of the campaign. One must remember that many decisions made were done so under the guise of national security. When events come up that fit that objective, whoever is in power will do whatever it takes to protect the country. This is not new, The methods may differ but not the objective. I don8217t appreciate Trump because he is very arrogant and self assured, and this combination can be very dangerous for the world. He can bed all the women he wants as long as he does do pillow talk. Bedding woman will only weaken a small organ, but Loose lips can sink battle ships and nations. Hillary Clinton is a student of Madelyne Albright. I can tell you a factual story about Madelyne. When she was a toddler her ambassadorial family fled into Serbia to escape fascism. A village family took them in, hid and sheltered them. This family risked their lives and that of their kids and village for Madelyne Albright and her relatives. Then her father made some deals with the Nazis, and they left for the US. Fascism was not only the Nazis ideology. Many Europeans supported them. It8217s why the elite in France, Poland, Austria, Italy, Croatia, Albania, Spain, Netherlands etc never put up a fight. It8217s easy to then say, look we were overrun. No one, until the Serbian border, but no one, fought against them. Now, when there is actual evidence of Madelyne in the form of Photos and an elderly man telling the media he remembers her in the village. She falsifies her own biography to hide the fact. Those people saved her life. She repayed them by demonizing, bombing them and stealing from them. The Albright group now owns among other things, a telco company in Kosovo. How Conflict of interest She is part of the fascist remnant that got across the Atlantic. With their ideology. There8217s a youtube video of her in a bookstore clearly saying 8220disgusting serbs8221, before walking of. That8217s a racist. And she8217s Hillary8217s teacher Good luck to you Americans. Whats most frightening to the Hillary Clinton and some republicans is the fact that trump is not part of the Political dynasties. It Brahmins. He is much like the current Indian PM who was once on the outside accused of murdering 2000 Muslims. He was barred from entry into the US and his ascendancy meant that the Nehru dynasty and others like them would be crushed and relegated to the criminal classes and into oblivion. Although not a great fan of the man (not for the same reasons as Hillary and the NY Times)the US needs to have someone who will clean up the mess. The political correctness has to go. Why African Americans support Hillary is a mystery. She Obama and her husband are an inseparable political dialogue of incompetence. They did nothing for the African Americans or Latinos other than offer pious platitudes. Prayers in schools was stopped by the democrats if the Christians have a complaint. The police shooting of unarmed blacks was not cured by Obama. She said nothing about it and avoided the discussion. In the 19608242 and 19708217s America refused entry to anyone anywhere who had trade union connections, belonged to a Marxist or socialist movement and had expressed any opposition to US foreign policy at the time. All Trump is doing is a repeat with the Muslims who are not a race but a political religious order seeking the same objectives against the US as the communists. As for the Mexicans we need to stop the mass migration of illegal labour and the flow of drugs of addiction into the US. If Trump looses and Hillary wins, the US looses and China and its cheap labour wins altogether. It will inevitably lead to ccivil strife and no turning back. Nobody cares This kind of crime is hidden in the lies of our leaders, and over educated morons believe the lies We are doomed God save us all The whore of Babylon will rule However, there does exist a unique force on the earth, which is growing stronger by the day and stands as a biggest challenge to these tyrants. It does not yield to their threats, conspiracies, plots and tricks. It stands unyielding against the tyranny and vows to uproot not only this evil, but all the evil persistent on the earth. It is not based on any country or race, but on an ideology, an ideology which reforms the individuals and transforms them to enjoin good and to stop evil on the earth. In other words, it reestablishes dharma by people themselves. Yes, this is what is known by Arabic term Islam. Islam aims and endeavors to establish such a state on earth by implanting three basic tenets in human minds. O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it - its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah. through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer. (Quran 4:1) 1. Entire mankind has originated from the first pair of male and female and hence they all belong to a same family. 2. There is only one God for all of humanity. 3. We are being watched by Him and are answerable to Him for our deeds. Our deeds will be judged on the Day of Judgment and we will be rewarded either with Paradise or Hell based on our deeds. Now you can understand yourself why Islam faces so much opposition. As Islam stresses upon equality of mankind and universal brotherhood, this movement is not be liked by those who have been exploiting weaker section of the community in the name of superiority of color, race, creed etc. As Islam says that man can approach and worship God directly, it displeases the intermediaries who have been exploiting people in the name of God by spreading superstitions in the society hitherto. As Islam commands us to do good and forbid evil, those who exploit the masses with selling of evil means are afraid of the growth of this faith. Thus, this reformation movement spoils the sleep of defenders of Adharma all over the world. Hence they stand united to suppress the growth of Islam. Sounds like a large pile of crap. They got rid of Qaddafi. End of story. Oh. Don8217t forget Lockerbie. Você sabe. Terrorism. If Hillary had any effect on his death she deserves a medal. The US was not the major player not the decision maker at NATO for this overthrow of this despot that murdered thousands and was as corrupt as a dictator can be. You still want to cheer him on and stick up for him. Idiots. and this is exactly why she wants war with both Russia and Iran8211this stands smack in the way of globalism8230 I read this a few days ago and have since read a lot of other suggestions about Clinton8217s behaviour and motivation. A question that was not posed in this article is, what happened to the Libyan gold that was to be used to float a new currency This is why i refuse to pay the illegal world banker federal reserve and the IRS a single penny. Fkem. POS.